R Rating Ep26 - Anchorman 2 The Legend Continues (2013)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: After being the top rated anchorman in San Diego, Ron Burgundy tries to take a bite out of the Big Apple. But as the world continues to change, Ron must improvise and adapt to prove his worth not only in the newsroom, but to his biggest fan, his son. [00:00:19] Speaker B: That last part doesn't make any sense at all. Very nice. All right. We are joined today by Real bubba hotep. Unfortunately, run 7 Brian was not able to join us today. Brian. But he did send in this video. So let's check that out and then we'll continue on with our episode. [00:00:35] Speaker C: Bringing in 170 some million dollars nationwide and only costing $50 million, you would think that this movie was a success. But Anchorman 2, the legend continues shouldn't have continued. This movie was terrible. I did not enjoy it at all. I will never recommend this to anybody. Last week I said I couldn't remember if I had seen Anchorman 2 or not. I remembered as I was watching it. I pulled a dory and realized I watched the first five minutes of this movie and turned it off because I couldn't stand it. I found some of the jokes just offensively dumb or just offensive in general. This movie took everything I didn't like about the first movie and turned the volume up on it. They rehashed the same kind of humor. I know humor is subjective. This just isn't for me, for sure. But they took the same kind of jokes and just turned the volume up on them, redid the same tropes. It was really terrible. This did have even less of a plot, really. Like, they kind of, like invented reasons for doing stuff. And they were super, super paper thin. None of the characters held up. It was just really horrible for me to sit through. I never would have watched this movie were I not required to sit through. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Required reading. [00:01:57] Speaker C: The direction was maybe a little bit better. It felt like they were kind of corralled on their humor a little bit more, but they were still way too far off the chain. The effects were actually slightly better than the first movie. They used more special effects to do a variety of things, especially there at the end. And it was almost to the movie's detriment because it didn't look so ridiculous. It looked like they were almost trying, but then failing. I think the only redeeming part of this movie, there's two things. The music was as good as the first one. They had some catchy tunes in it and everything didn't take me out. It was okay. I kind of like the soundtrack to it and whatnot. I mean, who wouldn't? And then, once again, I did like the character Brick. I enjoyed watching what's his name, Steve, go with his. His girlfriend, where they were going back and forth. And you could tell the director was like, hey, I want you two to talk as stupid to each other as you possibly can and don't break character. And that's kind of what I enjoyed watching. It was completely standalone from the movie. You could just watch the clips on YouTube and enjoy it for what it was. Watching those two just try and be as dumb as they possibly could without making each other laugh, that was kind of fun and entertaining. I did like the little character dynamic between those two. It was entertaining. Had nothing to do with the movie, like I said, could have been complete, completely separate from that. Does this movie hold up? [00:03:36] Speaker A: No. [00:03:37] Speaker C: It was racially insensitive, sexist. It was pretty kind of disgusting. The humor, because the jokes weren't funny. You. You really can't kind of make those jokes. Like, you have to get somebody to laugh if you're going to talk about racism and sexism and bigotry and all those things. And I wasn't laughing. I just found it offensively dumb. And, you know, the. The character, the black woman and this character who takes all this crap from Ron in the beginning, and then at the end, she wants to jump his bones and didn't make any sense. It was the same problem we had with Veronica from the first movie. It was just. The volume was turned up on this one. Again, I had almost no fun during this entire movie. I did not chuckle at anything other than the Steve Carell part where he's playing the Brick character. That one in the middle. That. That was it. That was the only part of this movie I enjoyed. This movie came in at a 27 on a scale of 100. I definitely recommend everyone avoid this movie. Have fun with that, guys. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Can you believe that? Oh, man. [00:04:52] Speaker B: All right. Thank you, Brian, for that reporting from the scene. Off scene. I don't know. All right. He hit a lot of points that I wanted to talk about, which is actually pretty perfect. Although I. I got to disagree with him pretty hard. I hated Brick in this movie. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Brick is dead. [00:05:11] Speaker B: No, Brick's alive. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Brick is dead. Look at him. [00:05:14] Speaker B: He's not dead. [00:05:14] Speaker A: He's not dead. Brick, you're not dead. [00:05:16] Speaker B: You're Brick. Brick, it's you. [00:05:17] Speaker A: He's dead. No. [00:05:19] Speaker B: I thought Brick was kind of fun in the first movie. I hated everything about him in this one. I found him so annoying just because there was. [00:05:27] Speaker A: It was just too Much Brick, he [00:05:29] Speaker B: was with everything else, he nailed it. Everything was turned up to 11, and so was Brick. And I think Brick was okay because he was like, for lack of a better term, not the straight man, but kind of the straight man in the first one simply because he was muted when everybody else was screaming all the time. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Right. [00:05:44] Speaker B: And in this one, he was just like, let's make him even dumber. Let's make him even more annoying. Let's just turn him to the point where, like, I don't know, I, I couldn't stand him. I didn't find him and his girlfriend very funny. I didn't. I didn't find him entertaining at all. The nicest soda machine anyone's ever taken me to. [00:06:04] Speaker D: It received five stars. [00:06:06] Speaker A: As you know, didn't watch Anchorman, Never watched Anchorman until last week when we did this. And now Run hadn't watched Anchorman 2 until this week. I think the comedy just doesn't hit the same anymore. It's just a different breed nowadays, A different breed back then. And it will be a different breed 10 years from now. So I don't know if it just holds up as well as. I think there is universal comedy and there are some universal elements of comedy in this. Some of the slapstick, them getting hurt, the, you know, the big brawl at the end is, is still funny. Even though it's like over the top and ridiculous. It's still funny because it's, you know, physical humor of beating people up is always funny. It always will be. But yeah, I just, I don't feel like it. It holds up quite the same. And I feel very similar to Run as well, that this one, this one misses a lot more than it hits, even compared to the first. [00:07:09] Speaker B: I, I would agree. What do you think, Steve? You're joining us here for the first time on our rating. Did you now you said you watch Anchorman today when I kind of asked you if you could step in. Have you seen anchor, sorry, anchorman 2 today? Have you seen Anchorman recently? [00:07:25] Speaker D: Yeah, I watched it today. I haven't watched it recently. It was a couple of years ago, so I had to re familiarize myself with it. And thanks for that. I appreciate it. [00:07:35] Speaker B: You could have said no. [00:07:37] Speaker D: It was man, about 45 seconds of it whenever, you know, he's, he's talking to Harrison Ford and a, A few kind of maybe off color jokes happen. Like when Chris Christina Applegate is looking at the Mexican maid and saying, I will put you in a closet. [00:07:55] Speaker A: I will lock you in a closet. [00:07:57] Speaker D: You Know, and stuff that got me laughing. And then I thought maybe this show was funnier than what I remember it. And because I haven't watched the original in so long, you know, coming to the second and watching that first, it wouldn't be the same jokes repeated, you know, and all that, so it might be funny. But that lasted to. About the seaworld scene. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [00:08:21] Speaker D: And yeah, and then he got to the dolphins and he just made that little like ad lib and he said this dolphin's rehabilitated and Ruru is in, you know, and. And gave the name. That was the last laugh I had through the entire movie. [00:08:35] Speaker B: I, I'll agree. The, the I will lock you in the closet is the only out loud laugh I had. The only, like haha. I had, I had a couple of chuckles here and there, but overall, yeah, the comedy on this one just really missed the mark for me. I feel kind of like run touched on this a little bit. It feels like in the first movie they were just ad libbing every line and it was just a matter of like the funniest take gets to be in the movie. I didn't get the feeling of that in this one. It felt like there was more scripted lines, or at least that's how it came across. But that didn't mean that the lines that they stuck with were the ones that I thought were good. Do you know what I mean? Like, it almost feels like my understanding is Will Ferrell and Paul Rudd were the ones pushing for this movie to the point where they even took pay cuts to get this movie made. And yet had I not read that, yeah, fair enough, fair enough. Had I not read that, I would have bet money the studio was pushing for this. And they were just like, all right, I guess we'll do it. Because it didn't feel. It felt like they put everything on the table for the first one. Love it or hate it, it feels like they went all in on that movie. And this one felt like they were just cashing in their chips. Like they didn't necessarily have as much left in the gas tank and they were just kind of playing the same characters. [00:09:47] Speaker A: That's just a problem again with sequels in general. If it's not something that really adds or really takes in a different direction, it's always going to feel or look like a carbon copy of some kind of. I mean, look at Ant man, ant man 2, you know, like just picking on Paul Rudd here. But it's just like, it feels like a money grab at that point. Damn straight. Was This, I don't know. I. To me, it looked. It looked to me like these actors had a blast making the first one, so they just wanted to have a blast again, and so they made the movie. [00:10:28] Speaker B: I was shocked to find out that not only this movie, it costs a little more. Obviously it takes place nine years later, but it made a lot more money, almost double what the first movie made. And it has a higher Rotten Critic, Rotten Tomatoes critic score, which blew my mind because I remember the first movie coming out being like a cultural milestone. Like, whether you loved it or hated it, you could not get away from that movie. And then this one came out, and it. Honestly, it felt like it came and went within a weekend. Like it was like Anchorman 2's coming out and everyone. Why. And then it came out and nobody talked about it. I was shocked. This made more money and was better received by critics. I don't know about the audience score. I think the audience score was a little bit lower on this one. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I believe so. [00:11:07] Speaker B: But I. I was just blown away. And again, I'm even surprised it was only nine years later. I thought this was like 15, 20 years later for some reason. So the fact there's 2013, I thought I would have bet this was like 2018 or something, but. [00:11:20] Speaker D: Well, I mean, it's about the time. I don't. I think anybody that likes Will Ferrell needs to have their head examined anyway. I mean, you can. You can plug and play any of his characters. Just the lo. Whole bumbling oath that the really hot girl ends up falling for and can't. No one can stand him because he's so arrogant. And I mean, that's in just about everything, you know, And. And this just his comments for sure. Yeah, he just. He. This one really pushed it, though. I mean, Steve Carell, you could tell his lines were forced. And what's his name? David What? Cock. Cockner. Cockner. Something like that. [00:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:12:00] Speaker D: I usually like his movies, you know, and. And in the first Anchorman, he. I loved him. He was just great. But then in this one, he just lost it. Brian Fantana with Paul Rudd, you. I had to take a shower watching him. He just came off as so greasy, you know, I just. I. I don't know why. It's like all of those lines were forced, and it's almost like the writers did it in a weekend, and they took the. The lines that they thought that were the funniest, and they took the lines that they couldn't really get right, so they just went with the Best one they had. And they just kind of slapped it together. That's what this movie felt like to me. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah, to the point where I think Brian touched on this a little bit. It felt like they were creating scenarios just so they could have jokes in that scenario. Like the scene where he falls down, loses his eyesight, and then is blind for what felt like 20 minutes, but was probably like, seven. What on earth was the point of that other than him just being able to yell, I'm blind. Don't you understand? I'm blind. I can't hear you because I'm blind. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Big Rod Burgundy blind. [00:13:06] Speaker B: I'm ba lined. I can't see it. I'm blind. You'll have to speak up. I'm wearing a toe. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Can you please call me a damn cab? [00:13:19] Speaker D: I'm blind. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Of course. [00:13:20] Speaker B: What on earth? [00:13:22] Speaker D: Well, so he could bottle feed the shark. I mean, they needed a shark at the end. [00:13:26] Speaker B: Hey, really quick, Dan, the editor here. I was going through this movie a second time while I'm editing, just looking for this shark they're talking about. Turns out it's not on the Netflix version. For whatever reason. I had to Google it, go to YouTube, find it over there. It's dumb. So be it. But the point is, that's why I'm, like, looking really confused right now. And later on, I'll confess, like, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. It's because I literally didn't see it in the version I watched. Let's get back to it. [00:13:53] Speaker A: Well, and that was the catalyst for his getting back together with his family and, and mending those wounds. But, yes, it was a terrible sequence. Now, Dan, you mentioned that you felt this script felt more scripted, less improvised. And I, I, I find, I find it the opposite, actually. Okay, to me, it, to me, it, it kind of came across that the writers were like, okay, let's just throw together, like, 16 sketch ideas, and then we'll just improvise our way through each one of them. And that will be the movie in sections because you got the Winnebago section. You got the meeting each person, like, rallying the troops section. You got, you know, each, the blind section. Every, every scene in this movie just seems like a skit. Dinner with the family skit. Oh, they are all African American. And let's make all the jokes that. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Wow. [00:14:51] Speaker A: But I mean, again, that is, it's comedy, right? Whether you like it or not, whether it ages well or not, that's another thing. [00:15:00] Speaker D: I mean, that's high praise. Calling it comedy. [00:15:02] Speaker A: The problem is, is if the audience doesn't have the buy in, it's not funny. But there was plenty of sexist jokes in the first one, and people all love that, right? And still to this day love it. [00:15:14] Speaker D: Are they jokes? [00:15:15] Speaker A: Probably not. But if you. If you can buy into the comedy, it is what it is. [00:15:19] Speaker D: That's what I loved about this movie, though. You know, it was the. The racist. The stuff that you shouldn't say out loud, but he says it anyhow because he's an idiot. You know, stuff like whenever champ. You know, when they're all sitting in the. The CEO or the manager, whatever, sitting in her office, and she kind of comes at Will Ferrell and he said, she's got a knife, you know, that made. That made me chuckle. That was hilarious, you know, to me. Because you expect them to say stupid stuff like that, you know? But all of the other stuff, I mean, when. Come on, give me a break, man. When you have the funniest Canadian Jim Carrey as a cameo, and he doesn't even. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Canadian, well, hey, there's not gonna be any fight without Scott Riles and the incredibly polite Canadian news team. [00:16:17] Speaker D: What about the French speaking Quebec news? [00:16:20] Speaker A: The real voice of Canada. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Give it a rest, eh? [00:16:23] Speaker A: Give me a break. They can't have news. Nothing happens in Canada. [00:16:27] Speaker B: We're gonna mop the floor with you. We're gonna put the boots to you. Sorry. It's all right. [00:16:31] Speaker A: We're gonna gouge your eyes out and kick your head in. Sorry. [00:16:36] Speaker C: I like your ginger ale. [00:16:38] Speaker D: You know, something's wrong with the movie. [00:16:41] Speaker B: For the record, Brian, I'm just going to shout you out for a second. It was the American this time that brought up the Canadian in the film. So, you know. [00:16:47] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:16:47] Speaker B: He's doing your job better than you are. I'm just going to throw that out there. [00:16:50] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you so much for recognizing the Canadian cameo in the movie. Steve. [00:16:55] Speaker D: We knew. [00:16:55] Speaker A: We knew. We brought you in for a reason. Thank you so much. [00:17:00] Speaker B: I will say, going on your. Like he's saying the wrong thing out loud. The scene where he first meets. First meets. Shoot. I'm blanking on her name. The CEO and like, all he can say is black. [00:17:12] Speaker A: This is Linda Jackson. [00:17:14] Speaker B: Hello, Mr. Burgundy. [00:17:16] Speaker D: Oh, black. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Black. Jesus. Just stop, Ron. I'm terribly sorry. I don't know why I can't stop saying [00:17:29] Speaker A: black. [00:17:29] Speaker B: The word black. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Hello, Mr. Burgundy. Black. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Black. [00:17:35] Speaker A: Stop. [00:17:36] Speaker D: Black. [00:17:37] Speaker C: Moly. [00:17:37] Speaker D: Moly. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Moly. Moly. Molly. Oh, like, I mean, I wasn't enjoying the movie up until that point. But that's where I was like, we are in serious trouble on this one. Like, yeah, but that's the level of comedy we're dealing with here. [00:17:48] Speaker D: I couldn't even appreciate that, because the only thing I could think of is Fred Savage and Austin Powers with the Mole. And Mike Myers say, moly, Moly, Moly. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Because he's done way better. [00:18:01] Speaker D: Yeah. You know, but that's. That's what it brought me back to. So I was like, man, they even ripped that off. [00:18:08] Speaker A: Well, I kind of. I kind of like that comparison of. Because Austin Powers, the Spy that Shagged Me, which maybe we'll do in the future. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Oh, I probably. [00:18:17] Speaker A: You're taking a character out of time, and he's got all these misplaced conceptions that modern time doesn't accept anymore. But the character is likable and learns from them. In this movie and this franchise, the characters don't learn shit. So it's not like, oh, you said something horrendous, but you're going to learn from it so we can laugh about it. They just were like, we're just going to hit you on the head with it over and over again to the umpteenth degree. And that's why it's funny, because it's so ridiculous that anyone would be like this. The problem again, and I bring that back to now, is that I feel like our world is receding in all of its. All of its reaches of equality, that it becomes not funny again because people are actually going through these problems again. [00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:07] Speaker A: And I don't want to go too deep into that, obviously, because this is just for fun shits and giggles. But I just feel like it's not a satire anymore as much as it once was. [00:19:17] Speaker B: I will say, like, props or props are due. They are Talking about the 24 hour news cycle and how they're focusing on things that are not news but that get views. And I was like, okay, that's brilliant, because that's actually something I 100% agree with. And then they went nowhere with that. They just kind of, like, introduced this is what's happening, moving on. And it's like, I know that we're not expecting, like, a whole lot from the Anchorman plot, but at the same time, like, I would watch that movie in a heartbeat. [00:19:46] Speaker A: I agree. I thought that was the kind of fun part of this movie that, oh, yeah, news has gone downhill. It's not about news anymore. It's about this entertainment. And if you think about it, Ron Burgundy is somebody who would bring that forward. And actually run with it. So it actually made sense with his character. And it made sense because that's what's going on in real life. Like, that actually all lined up and was one of the better parts of the movie as far as writing is concerned. But, yeah, everything else, maybe not so. Not so good. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Not, unfortunately, no. Did you feel. I felt like a lot of the jokes in this. Well, a couple of jokes especially were way too long and way too telegraphed to the point where you knew exactly what was coming minutes before it happened. And you mentioned the Winnebago scene. Hey, Ron, who's driving? Oh, it's okay. It's on cruise control. Best thing I ever did was install this deep fryer in the bagel. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Ron, why do you have this bag of bowling balls in this terrarium filled with scorpions? [00:20:45] Speaker B: It's a long, crazy story. [00:20:47] Speaker C: Hey, Ron. Cruise control just regulates speed. [00:20:50] Speaker B: It doesn't steer. Come again? And I point out to that one where, like, they're in the Winnebago for a while, all four of them sitting around and talking. And my brain instantly went to, like, who's driving this thing? And then it took them a while to get there. And then even once they got there, the scene of the rolling took a while. [00:21:06] Speaker A: And it's just, like, setting up all the items that are gonna go all over the place. Yeah, yeah. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Like, this was a. Simpsons did this exact joke better in four and a half seconds. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Right. [00:21:17] Speaker B: 20 years earlier. A cup holder. Bart. [00:21:22] Speaker A: We gotta stop and get a cop. [00:21:25] Speaker B: Bart. [00:21:25] Speaker A: Cruise control, my good man. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Everybody all set back here? [00:21:29] Speaker A: Nelson, good to see you. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Martin, always a pleasure. [00:21:32] Speaker D: Always a. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Right. Like, it was just that scene where Bart's like, hey, how you doing? Like, walking around the backseat hugging, like, shaking the hands with Martin and Milhouse and the bully. Nelson. And, like, who's driving and just goes through the cornfield. It was like, seven seconds. Hilarious. Perfectly done. And this one is, like, three, four minutes. And you're just like that. Like, was anybody surprised by that? Like, did anybody not see that coming? [00:21:59] Speaker D: No, I mean, I. I completely saw it coming. And then it was just so painful that I couldn't even enjoy what happened, you know, during it. What? The setup was the only laugh that I got, the only chuckle was just watching Steve Carell, you know, when he kind of hit his head on the roof and then the bowling ball came in. Because, I mean, who doesn't like watching people? [00:22:20] Speaker B: Physical comedy, right? [00:22:21] Speaker A: Yeah. People getting hurt is always funny. [00:22:24] Speaker D: But, I mean, the. The grease and the scorpion and, you know, and the bowling ball and all. I just. I couldn't watch. It became painful for me. I was like. I was honestly saying, I wonder If Home Alone 4 is streaming on anything. [00:22:39] Speaker B: I forgot about that. But, yeah, I've seen the bowling balls and the Grease and the Scorpions just laying around for no reason. You're just like, oh, I wonder what's going to happen? Anyway, I really. [00:22:47] Speaker A: I really believe it comes down to audience buy in. Because again, sometimes the audience being in on the joke prior to or letting that setup happen and letting the audience know what's going to happen can be funny because you can anticipate and be like, oh, yeah, this is gonna happen. It's gonna be so good. But if you don't have that buy in beforehand, it. It just falls flat. And I feel like that was the biggest problem with this movie is a lot of the jokes, a lot of the setups fall flat because we just don't buy into it. And I think maybe they thought everybody remembers and loved Anchorman, so we don't have to do any of that setup. We can just go full in with the jokes. And I think that was their biggest mistake. [00:23:33] Speaker B: They could have gone the other way on some of those jokes. Right. Like this for the. The setup for the cruise control in the Winnebago with the bowling balls, with the Grease, with the Scorpions, who's driving the vehicle. Subverting. Thank you. You could have gone a totally different direction on that. Instead of being like, oh, they're clearly about to derail and. And go into the ditch. Have, like, somebody else driving the vehicle. Or like, oh, Baxter's driving, like, literally almost anything and being like, oh, I actually didn't see that coming. Or have the van, like, swerve a little bit and like, oh, it's fine. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Nothing happens. And they're just like, this is a great ride, or whatever. Right. [00:24:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:10] Speaker B: At least that would have been like, oh, I actually didn't see that coming. That would have been something. [00:24:14] Speaker A: But anyways, it is what it is. Okay, so what do you want to talk about here? Do you want to talk about what we liked about this movie? Because we kind of came in harsh. You know, maybe we should talk about the loves of this movie. [00:24:29] Speaker B: I will say I'm not. I don't have a ton of nostalgia for music before a certain age. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:36] Speaker B: That being said, I was enjoying all the songs in this movie, despite the fact that I didn't really recognize most of them. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Another great soundtrack. Agreed. [00:24:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I think that was a highlight for sure. [00:24:47] Speaker D: The bad part is I recognized all of them. And honestly, other than Kenny Rogers, I never liked them when they came out. So listening to them became very painful. [00:24:59] Speaker A: So you just don't like 80s music is what you're saying? [00:25:02] Speaker D: From 80 to 83. I kind of blocked that stuff out when Captain and Tenille was a thing. No, everything's repressed. [00:25:11] Speaker A: Okay, okay, okay, that's fair. I mean, that's just a. That's a music taste preference, which is fine. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Do you have any positives to say, Steve? [00:25:18] Speaker D: I don't. I mean, other than just that things. The whole Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, you know, their cameo when, when she just says something inappropriate that you don't expect and it catches you off guard. You know, that made you know that the movie's bad. Whenever her saying that she will. I don't know if you want me to say it, but. See, punt cowboys. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:42] Speaker D: If that classes the movie up, you know, that it's going in the wrong direction. You know, stuff like that. And shooting her in the cooch with a BB gun. The, the very. The spontaneous stuff that I think were truly ad libbed. Those are the only things that I liked about this movie. Everything else I could have done without. I mean, they, they could have had a better movie. Just throwing together blooper reels on a Will Ferrell movie. [00:26:06] Speaker B: I was surprised they didn't because that was one of my favorite parts of the first movie was the blooper rail during the credits. And then this one ended and it just ended and I was like, no, okay. Which again, makes me think that there might not have been as many outtakes. Maybe they did just have the this is the script, stick to it attitude with this one. And maybe that's why there just wasn't as much of the ending there. [00:26:26] Speaker D: Yeah. And you would have figured from Judd Apatow, Gary Sanchez, you know, I mean, they've made good movies and it's. It's like they just telephoned this one and it was probably just a phone conference when they were saying, all right, cut. You know, that they might not have even been there. Hell, I don't know. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think this was Jed Apatow though. Right? [00:26:46] Speaker D: Was. I thought it was an Apatow production. His production studio. [00:26:50] Speaker A: He might be product producer. [00:26:52] Speaker D: That. [00:26:52] Speaker B: That's true. You could be right on that one. But McKay was the director. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And Raider in Quotations. On that note, Steve mentioned. I enjoyed again the big gang fight, the news gang fight. You knew it was coming again a mile away because it's like, oh, this was a big hit of the first one. They're gonna throw it in the second one. And they up the ante, as you knew they would. So it was just fun seeing the cameos and what the news stations they represented were in their corny lines and their silly weapons. And then they got really out of it with ghosts and minotaurs and jet fighters, and it was, like, so out of this world. [00:27:32] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. I was not into that scene until the History Network showed up, and they had a minotaur on their team. A mighty minotaur. [00:27:40] Speaker A: I don't know about this, man. [00:27:41] Speaker C: Minotaur isn't even history. [00:27:43] Speaker A: He's mythology. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Okay, cool. Like, I'd prefer it if it was an alien, but I will take a minotaur on the. [00:27:50] Speaker A: Exactly, like, getting called out. Even, like, they're like, okay, there's more. There's, like, mtv, and it's like, whatever. Weird Will Smith with tsn. And it just got, like, extreme. And it was like, that's pretty funny. And then the best part, though, of that was the. Well, what's his name? Greg Kinnear, coming in with his mind powers. I didn't actually see that joke coming, and I thought that was actually pretty funny because Ron was talking about him reading minds the whole show. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:20] Speaker A: And his son even mentioned him reading minds. He's like, no, no, no. And he played it off because he was a straight man. So it actually worked that the joke revealed that he actually had mind powers was quite funny. [00:28:32] Speaker B: I'm going to just mirror the same thing. I'm saying, I wish it was shorter. I could have done it just being him. Like, I got your run and run. Like, I knew it done. Yeah, that would have been perfect. But, yes, I agree. That did. Was like, oh, I. You're right. I did not see that joke coming. Going back significantly in the movie, when they're on, like, the Top of the World, and they're in, I want to say, Ron Burgundy's apartment, and they're, like, cutting to Ron Burgundy, and there's a poster of Ron Burgundy in the background, and they cut to, like, Paul Rudd, and there's a picture of Paul Rudd in the background. And they just keep going back and forth, and I'm like, that's kind of cute. And they go to Baxter, and Baxter has a poster of him in the background. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:06] Speaker B: That. That got me. That was one. I was like, all right, that's. It's such a stupid little nothing. But I thought that was kind of cute. [00:29:12] Speaker A: But you would have it for your dog. [00:29:13] Speaker B: So like, obviously, I mean, I wouldn't not. [00:29:18] Speaker D: There were some humorous things in the movie. I mean, what got me in the fight scene was just Steve Carell having the gun from the future. And when they asked where he got it, he just laughed. He was, hahahahaha. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Brick, what the hell is that? It's a gun from the future. No fair. He's got a gun from the future. Where did you get it from? [00:29:41] Speaker D: I love that, you know that just. That got me. I like that kind of humor, you know, because I'm the same. Somebody asks a question and you just ignore them. Answer with something that doesn't answer. I like that. I like the picture. You know, I like how they included Baxter. But some of the stuff like don't worry, Baxter, we won't feed them your dog food. Hahaha. And you could tell that they were actors that were good actors, but they were, they were doing the scene like they were purposely bad acting the kid in Wolf. [00:30:14] Speaker A: I know. Like that had to have been a choice, right? [00:30:17] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:30:18] Speaker A: That's why I wanted to talk to Run specifically was for the child actor in this because they purposely made him like a bad child actor. [00:30:28] Speaker D: Yeah, I had, I had to find a segue into it because I mean, I'm. I'm substitute Run. I'm running by proxy, you know. But yeah, just at that scene, you could tell he. The kid was a good actor unless they physically abused him. Or there's. Here's your mommy, we're gonna punch her if you don't start crying. Because the crying scene. Fantastic. He gave that, that was a real cry. But then you have. Why don't we forget the whole thing and you can go to hell. And just saying it like that, that's. They did it on purpose. And I don't understand. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Right. That's what I, I was. And I, I believe probably because of everybody's issue with bad child actors, that was the joke to have like the worst child actor being portrayed. That's my guess. [00:31:14] Speaker D: It could have. [00:31:14] Speaker A: But maybe again, because we don't have buy in. We didn't, we didn't buy the. That joke. [00:31:21] Speaker D: I, I don't. I mean, he did so good with that fake swing at the side, you [00:31:26] Speaker A: know, stop reading my mind. Okay. [00:31:32] Speaker D: You know, and stuff. He did great then. And then everything else. Hi, dad. How are you? You know, I just. Oh, man. Yeah, you. You don't know where they were going with it. [00:31:45] Speaker B: So I watched this movie on Monday night. I want to say maybe Sunday. No, I think Monday. I think I watched this on Monday. Recently, within the last week. And as a testament to this movie, I've already forgotten half of what you guys are talking about. Clearly I need to take better notes or something. As far as I know, I was awake the entire time, wasn't looking at my cell phone. And you keep mentioning things and I'm like, maybe you're just messing with me. You're just like, I know he doesn't like this movie. We're just going to keep going with it because if that's. If that's what's happening, you guys have a phenomenal improv going on. Were talking about this before the scene. I don't remember him, like, baby feeding a shark whatsoever. I do remember the gun from the future, but I had forgotten it until you mentioned it. When does the kid cry? [00:32:24] Speaker D: It's whenever they're setting the shark free. [00:32:28] Speaker B: What shark? [00:32:29] Speaker D: Yeah, after. Whenever they. The shark is in the net. Whenever he's still blind and his wife and son come to live with him and he's learning after the whole missing the apple thing, they find. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Okay in that montage. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, I remember the apple. I remember him being blind. I don't remember a shark whatsoever. But okay, I'll go with it. [00:32:49] Speaker D: That's what. The end with Dobie that, you know, there was Dobie the shark that he bottle fed and raised and stuff. That was there. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Yep. I'll. I'll just believe you and move on. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. There's so many jokes in the movie. You missed half of them. That's the problem. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yes, that. That's why I didn't enjoy it as much. I was too busy laughing from the previous joke to get the next joke. [00:33:17] Speaker D: Yeah, that. That was me. I missed the whole thing because I was still laughing about, you know, the part where he tried to hang himself from the fluorescent light. [00:33:25] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:33:27] Speaker D: Forgot it all. [00:33:29] Speaker A: Wow, what a downer, Steve. Yeah. [00:33:32] Speaker D: Hey, I will say, you know, we. I expected Will Ferrell to be funny, Steve Carell to be funny, Paul Rudd to be funny, stuff like that. But then they start giving the funniest lines to the cameo actors, to Christina Applegate, to all of the, like, secondary actors in there. And I appreciated that. I like that. It kind of. The main actors were doing a terrible job, so the secondary actors kind of stepped up and they sold it. And for me, that's what made the [00:34:01] Speaker A: movie made as much as. As much as this movie as made [00:34:06] Speaker D: as much as it's Made. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Made as much as we could about. Of it. Yeah. All right. Do we have a whole lot more to say? We want to start wrapping this up as we are. I mean, I thought we were going to. [00:34:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Steve already crushed my clean's Canadian shout out. Jim Carrey's cameo as news anchor Scott Riles with the. With the bad, purposely bad Canadian accent. You know, they brought out some hockey stuff sticks and some really, really stupid Canadian type things, which was, you know, funny at. It's always good to be represented, though, right? So for sure. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Do you know the woman next to him, she had quite a few lines and I didn't recognize her. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, she's in a lot of things, but I believe she's French, actually. I think she's actually a French actress. [00:34:49] Speaker B: French Canadian? [00:34:51] Speaker D: No, real French. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Real France. [00:34:53] Speaker A: Real France, I believe. [00:34:55] Speaker D: I thought she was French Canadian. And that's kind of what sold the joke to me, because she was saying, and don't forget the Quebec French. You know, and they're like, you know, [00:35:03] Speaker A: I think she was actually French, but can, you know, obviously French Canadians got to get a little dig in there, too. [00:35:09] Speaker B: Fair enough. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Aside from that, I don't know. There's not a. I liked one brick line where he says, I'm not afraid. No ghosts. I thought that was funny. I don't know why. Little Ghostbusters joke in there I thought was funny. And I also. And this is just a soft spot for 80s action movies. The Van Damme Bloodsport. In Ron's eyes, that got me. Because who doesn't love Van Damme and bloodsport. Hilarious. Hilarious. We could put that on the list. There's bloodsport and bloodsport, too. We could put that on. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Second sport, unfortunately, I like. Okay. I remember liking the first blood sport. I did not know there was a second one. [00:35:51] Speaker A: There you go. [00:35:51] Speaker B: You actually got my attention. [00:35:53] Speaker D: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was straight to video. [00:35:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think it was great by any means, but anyway, we can put it on the list for future episodes. [00:36:03] Speaker D: Please don't. [00:36:04] Speaker A: That's so funny. All right, well, you want to write this thing? I don't think I have anything else to say. [00:36:08] Speaker B: No, I think I'm good. Steve, do you want to give us your score? It's now because we do have a score for Brian, and Steve is just tipping in for the day. You're not going to make it onto the poster, per se, but I'd still love to know what your overall thoughts are on the movie. If you've got an Overall score to go. [00:36:22] Speaker D: I don't know. I mean, the. [00:36:23] Speaker A: The See Run 7 said 27. [00:36:26] Speaker D: Yeah, the soundtrack was bad, the acting was bad, but I don't know if it was good actors purposely being bad or if it was just really telephoned in. It's hard for me to. To do, I'd say. If anything, I'd give it a little higher rating at a 32 just because of the spontaneous ad lib. Side character lines that just come out of nowhere to catch you off guard. And you laugh about it. [00:36:55] Speaker A: All right, what to say, what hasn't been said already. It's like the first movie was a sponge, and it. And it soaked up all the essence of comedy that it could handle. They tried to ring it out for the second, and they missed the cup altogether. I don't know what I'm even saying. I'm just improvising. See, improvising's hard, people. So cut them some slack, will you? No, this movie. So it felt more like a group of sketches. I mentioned that. Than the first one. There were some plot points. I kind of like the. The decline in actual news stories and the corruption of companies owning news stations. I thought that was all interesting and they could have actually made something of it. Bringing up racial topics and things like that could have been interesting. But again, I feel because Anchorman was dialed up to 11, this was dialed up to, like, 27. Run seven score, by the way. I was right. And it just didn't. We couldn't buy in. We couldn't get on board. And it just fell flat throughout the movie. Again, when you have 17,000 jokes, a couple are gonna land, but the overall spaghetti is just lacking the sauce. I don't know why I'm saying all these words. Still a little under the weather. Maybe that's it. It's the cough medicine. Anyway, at the end of the. At the end of the day, this isn't a good movie. I wouldn't recommend it myself, but I am going to give it a 33 out of 100 because I believe that this was a very improvised movie, and I believe a lot of fun was had. I just feel like it also suffers from. In its time, it was probably funnier than it is now. It does not hold up. Yeah. And. And there is a lot of good actors in here that committed hard. It's just. They committed hard to a bad movie. All right, go for it, Dan. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Bring this home. I have no idea what to say. Anchorman2, as my co hosts have already said, just took everything. The first movie did and dialed it up unfairly. Unfortunately, it didn't do it in a way that really worked for me. We saw a lot of the same jokes returning. Not done better. Not even done as well as the first one. We saw a lot of gags where there was so much lead up to them that you knew it was going to happen long before it did. And at no point did they take a swing and like take a hard left and. And really subvert your expectations. They kind of just did exactly what they said they were going to do five minutes ago. And it was really frustrating being that you were going to see it coming and then just seeing it happen in the. Not the worst possible way, but just not in a good way. There was a lot of fun cameos in this movie. I really did enjoy some of them quite a bit. Like having all the people in the fight scene at the very end. Having John James Marsden throughout was kind of fun. The music in this, I thought, was really well done. I like some of these songs. Sorry. I liked hearing these songs despite the fact that I have no real nostalgia for these songs. I just thought that they worked well in the movie they were in. But overall, it's a comedy and it didn't bring the funny. And it's really hard to enjoy it when the plot, as interesting as the plot could have been, wasn't really fleshed out and the comedy wasn't really working for me. This movie really suffered from that. The difference between this and, like, our second franchise that we did, Highlander was. Highlander was bad, but at least it was fun bad. This is boring bad, and that's worse. I gave this a 30 out of 100. [00:40:35] Speaker A: You know what? We're all similar in the ballpark. [00:40:38] Speaker B: There we are. And that gives our total score of Anchorman. Unfortunately, it does land higher than Highlander did at 43. Now, you'll notice my number's quite a bit higher than the other two. That's because I did enjoy the first movie where these two did not enjoy either of them, unfortunately. But this second one really brought it down. I think our average scoring went from 56 on the first movie down to a 30 on the second movie. And feels right. Damn straight, sister. I hate to say it, but it feels right. [00:41:08] Speaker A: Feels right. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker A: It is what it is. Like, you know, you can't win them all. It is what it is. [00:41:15] Speaker D: See, now, I would have agreed with you, Dan. In the beginning. I liked the first Anchorman. From what I remember it, I. And I remember laughing quite a lot because Will Ferrell does have his moments, especially if you let him go off script and ad lib, kind of like in the bloopers with him and Jon Stewart and Jay and Son of Bob, you know, and all that stuff. And I feel like they got a chance to ad lib more in the first one, you know, but yeah, this second one was. No. A big heaping pile of dog present. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Mm. I mean, say what you will, Will Ferrell has made a career out of playing loud, obnoxious characters. I really prefer all of the accompanying characters and cast around him more than him himself. I believe that those are kind of what makes his movie shine over himself. But that said, he does have a few movies where he isn't loud, obnoxious, and annoying, and I prefer those movies in general. [00:42:16] Speaker B: I would agree with that. I think if you. If you're not a fan of Will Ferrell and you're like, oh, all yell, go check out Stranger Than Fiction. I think that's a legitimately good movie with him at the heart of it. [00:42:26] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:42:27] Speaker B: I think with the exception of this movie, though, like, even though I'm not a big Will Ferro fan, there's usually a lot of very quotable lines in all of his movies. There's usually really funny things you can point to. And, like, honestly, I. I forgot chunks of this movie already. It's been four days. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we noticed. [00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:42:43] Speaker A: Like, [00:42:46] Speaker B: it's. It's gonna be interesting, but not still good, though. [00:42:49] Speaker A: It was. It was good to have something different. Right. We've been doing a lot of sci fi, a lot of action. So just having, like, a pure comedy, it was fun to, you know, just talk about something else for a change. [00:42:59] Speaker B: I would love to get a comedy on the board that we enjoyed. I'm now curious what that would even be like. What. What is a comedy that's going to hit you, me and Brian all positively, because we seem like we got pretty different. I think we are pretty. Our com. Our comedy works pretty well in what we. Sorry, how am I trying to word this? I think our comedy blends well, but I'm not sure what our tastes in a common comedic movie would do. Right. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it depends. I mean, I think there are universally funny comedies out there, but is there universally funny franchises out there? And that's a big question because, again, you can get that magic once, but can you replicate it over and over again? That's. That's a hard thing to do. It's very hard. [00:43:48] Speaker B: I mean, it's tough because I want to talk, but at the same time, it's like, well, do I want to play my hand? Like, I. I can think of one or two where I'm like, I. I pretty much like that, that franchise of comedy, but Right. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Well, down the line, we'll find out. [00:44:00] Speaker B: All right, everybody, that has been our rating of the Anchorman franchise. We were pretty harsh on this one, but were we harsh enough? Let us know if we were too harsh on this or if you actually really enjoy this franchise in the comments below. We'd love to hear from you. We record this live over at Twitch TV, the Mongoolie show, every Thursday night at 9pm so if you want to go over there and hit the follow button, you can interact with us live while this is going on. We don't interact with the chat too much while we're recording. We do read everything you have to say. 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