R Rating Ep8 - Evil Dead (1981) and Evil Dead 2 (1987)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is a synopsis for Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 because they're pretty much the same movie. Before, cell phones were in every pocket. Ashley J. Williams goes for a fun weekend in an abandoned cabin in the woods. Unfortunately, he inadvertently awakens evil, possessive spirits that gruesomely terrorize and taunt him. Ash must try to survive until dawn while being bathed in the blood of his friends. Or. Or find a way to close the horrific Book of the Dead for good. Let's get into the Evil Dead. [00:00:44] Speaker B: From classics to new releases. He's in the. No, my goal is movies. [00:00:52] Speaker C: Let's go. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Got the show. [00:01:07] Speaker A: We are going to cover the Evil Dead from 1981 and Evil Dead 2, which was what, 86 release? 87. [00:01:15] Speaker C: 87. [00:01:16] Speaker A: We're going to cover both movies at the same time. Not because, you know, they're just terrible movies and we just want to skip right through them as fast as possible, but because The Evil Dead 2 is kind of like a sequel. Not quite sequel, not quite remake. It's like a requel. Quoting Bruce Campbell. [00:01:37] Speaker C: I was gonna say that's Bruce Campbell's exact words. [00:01:38] Speaker B: That's about right. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Yeah. It is a recall where they were trying to further the story but didn't have the rights to the original movie. So they had to remake the movie in a way that they could push the. For the story forward at the same time. [00:01:54] Speaker B: That why I missed that. That's why. [00:01:58] Speaker A: So they, they couldn't get the rights because the. The Alliance Cinema or whatever it's called. New Line. [00:02:05] Speaker C: New Line, I think it was. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah, New Line Cinema owned the rights to the picture, but they weren't producing the second movie. They had a different producer for the movie. And so they couldn't use. They couldn't. They couldn't just use that. They couldn't just do that. So they had to retell the story over again in its own right. And that's why it's like a 15 minute recap of the first film. Kind of shortened, tightened up, quickened. And then they get into the elements of the second movie as. As it was intended to be. [00:02:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Bruce Campbell was actually saying in that interview, or a very similar one at least, where he actually has people coming up to him all the time and being like, why would you go back to the cabin? And he's like, no, no, no, that wasn't the point. We didn't go back to the cabin. It was like a retelling of the first movie. Like, yeah, that's essentially just to get you caught up to speed. And then it takes off at the exact moment the first one ends. So you're supposed to think of it as like. Like skip that first five minutes or whatever it is and start the movie. Right. As soon as the ghoul is chasing him through the house and, like, catches, that's where the movie starts. Literally where the first one ended. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Exactly. Yes. And there's a point. Spoiler alert in the third one, army of Darkness, where you can skip the first five minutes and go directly into where the second one left off. Making this really one large, epic, amazing movie. [00:03:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:22] Speaker A: But it's separated into three pictures. [00:03:24] Speaker C: Basically, just the worst weekend ever for Ash. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Exactly. Well, I mean, pretty bad for some of his friends as well. [00:03:31] Speaker C: Well, that's fair. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Through it, sure. [00:03:37] Speaker A: All right. So that's why we're doing this one kind of together, because the movie kind of lends itself to that in. In a way of each movie. So that being said, totally. [00:03:47] Speaker C: These are very, very different films. So I don't know about you guys. This is my first time seeing them since high school. And in high school, I didn't care for these movies whatsoever. Didn't like them at all. And that's why I never really went back to them. Going back to them this time, after so many years, I found a real appreciation for the first movie that I didn't expect. So that was actually really interesting for me where there's. [00:04:10] Speaker A: It. [00:04:11] Speaker C: There's a lot to criticize, but there's a lot to love about the first movie as well. Brian, you've been incredibly quiet, and I feel like this is your franchise. So I'm super curious to hear some words come from you. What do you. What do you think? What's your history with Evil Dead? [00:04:23] Speaker B: Okay. I don't remember what I saw first, whether it was Evil dead, Evil Dead 2, or army of Darkness. But I do know that when I did see army of Darkness, I made sure to go back and watch Evil Dead 1 and Evil Dead 2. I don't remember, however, them being so drastically different, even though they're similar. [00:04:48] Speaker C: Yep. [00:04:48] Speaker B: To me, I. I really. To kind of give it away. I enjoyed Evil Dead one more than I enjoyed Evil Dead 2. I really liked practical effects in Evil Dead 1. I liked this horror, gross blood, gut stuff. And then In Evil Dead 2, it felt like it pivoted to a more mental thing until about halfway through when they introduced a whole bunch of new cast members and it kind of felt like Evil Dead 1 all over again with different cast members sort of thing. It was a little all over the place. I just. It's really hard for me to put these movies into words, but I know that I liked one better. And I felt like two didn't take itself as serious. It felt like they were just, hey, we've got a little bit more time and a little bit more budget to work with. Let's just do all the stuff we didn't get to do in the first one and we're not going to try as hard is kind of how it felt to me when they went back to number two a little bit. I just. I felt like it was a little more sloppy and they were just trying to show off and they weren't really pulling their punches. Where in the first one, Bruce Campbell put his house up, mortgaged his house to pay for the second half of the movie because they ran out of money. You know, his heart was in it to make that thing work. And. And I felt that in the first movie, I felt that even though it was over the top, that they really tried hard. And in the second movie, I just felt like they're like, ah, this one's already in the bag. We got the name brand recognition, so let's just do some fun stuff. That's just how I felt going into the second one. Still good. But I didn't enjoy it as thoroughly as the first one. Even though the first one was so discombobulated. I don't know. There's a lot going on here. That's why I didn't just jump in, because I'm just. Words are falling out of my mouth right now. There's just so much for me to go over. [00:06:43] Speaker A: No, no, that's fine. [00:06:45] Speaker C: It's interesting because I was trying to. No, no, no. No criticism here. I was trying to spread that out a little bit, but you just took every note I had about these two movies and put all of them right on front street. Like having not seen them in so long. No, no, you're good. You're totally good. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Let you guys go. And I was gonna jump in on. [00:07:04] Speaker A: A piece here and a piece there. [00:07:05] Speaker B: But no, no, no. [00:07:06] Speaker C: I'm sorry for asking your opinion. [00:07:09] Speaker B: You open that thing up, it just flows out. [00:07:12] Speaker C: I agree with everything you just said. I. I was shocked how much I enjoyed the first movie. I don't think it's great, but I was shocked with how much I enjoyed it. When I was actually sitting there taking notes, I was looking. I'm like, these are really good camera angles. Like, this is really good sound effects. This is really great music for A horror movie. Like, it sets the atmosphere so perfectly. The sound effects are just creepy enough. Some of them are a little repetitive. We'll talk about that. But it works so perfectly. Some of the camera angles, you can tell he's trying, like, as a new director, he is trying new things that I don't know were that prevalent in 1981, certainly not at the budget that he was working at. Like, it reminded me so much more. Like, one of my favorite directors is Kevin Smith. Say what you will, it reminded me very much of Clerks, where, like, this is just a guy who decided to make a film and just went for it. Like, as you said, like, he had to, like, mortgage his house to get this thing made. Like, this was just a passion project through and through. And unfortunately, he couldn't really afford actors or great makeup. But you kind of get through with. You kind of don't care. Like, there's enough heart to this movie, as weird as that sounds, that you let a lot of those things go and there's enough things done right that you let the stuff that isn't done right go. Like, it's. It's kind of succeeds despite itself to some extent. Does that make sense? [00:08:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:08:33] Speaker C: And then the second one came along. I watched both of these back to back with friends from high school. Both of them are bigger fans of these movies than I am. And we watched them back to back. And I was shocked at how much I enjoyed the first one and shocked by how different and. And much I didn't like the second one. Like, felt like the first one was trying to do something and didn't quite have the skill to get it done. And the second one, they stopped trying to do something and they just went full Three Stooges horror. And it just did not work for me whatsoever. [00:09:04] Speaker B: The claymation was terrible. [00:09:05] Speaker C: Yeah. I've been saying for years, I don't like Sam Raimi. [00:09:10] Speaker B: You said that the special effects were low budget in the first one. I like them so much better than that Claymation crap that they used in the second one. That one was just. That was like. That's. I don't know. I've seen some bad CGI that was much as that. Like, it was. [00:09:25] Speaker C: I didn't say it was good in the second one either. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Okay, now I. I've been saying I. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Want to jump in here a little bit. [00:09:34] Speaker C: Sure. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Because you guys are saying maybe that this one didn't have the heart. They were kind of just like. [00:09:38] Speaker C: No, I said it does have heart. [00:09:39] Speaker A: No, the second one. [00:09:40] Speaker C: Oh, okay, okay. [00:09:42] Speaker A: And. [00:09:43] Speaker B: And it's. [00:09:44] Speaker A: Which is funny. And I don't want to, like, take that thought away from you. That's your opinion, and that's how it feels. That's fine. But just to let you know, after the success of the Evil Dead, they were. Went and made another movie called Crime Wave, which bombed, brutally bombed. And so Sam Raimi was like, okay, well, how do we save our careers? Let's go back to the horror genre because we can maybe recover from this. So they were desperate to actually recover and to the point of, let's just revisit the Evil Dead and continue that story, even though Ash dies in the first one at the end. Spoiler alert. Right? Like, he. Straight up. Yeah, that's. That's the ending is him getting offed by the spirit. Like, it gets it. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:29] Speaker A: Okay, right. So they change that being like, oh, maybe he doesn't die. So he knocks him across and he becomes possessed and then he's not possessed, and it's a whole thing. But I think they desperately wanted to make this movie a success. So I think they worked very hard on this movie, but they also didn't. They don't love horror, the genre. They. They just thought that's the way they can make money. They're like, that can. We're established in this horror. They only made horror to begin with because you can make it cheap. You can get in the door with it. It's easy. So they went back to the horror genre. But because they were more fans of the Three Stooges, Abbott and Costella, Marx Brothers, they. They grew up loving those movies. And when they did their, like, little indie Super 8 movies, they were all like, comedy slapsticks stuff. They invented pretty much the comedy horror genre, which they kind of deemed splat stick in Evil Dead 2, where they wanted to infuse all this humor and physical antics that they could into the movie because that's what they love doing. This was. This was really more their passion than the first one. So it's funny that, yeah, it's. It's funny that, yeah, you guys felt less. You felt less, like less passion from this, where I believe it's a more passionate film made in the. In the end from. From the group. [00:12:00] Speaker B: Maybe I just didn't like the direction of the second one then. Just didn't feel it. It wasn't what I showed up for it. And. And it's weird too, because I don't remember that such a drastic difference. But you watch them back to back, and for me, they were. They were Very, very different. [00:12:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:12:18] Speaker B: Um, for instance, in the first movie halfway, the first half of. Of Evil Dead 1, Ash is a pussy. He sits there, his friends, like, I'm a break your face. He's like, that's funny. And you know, things are happening and he just cowers on the couch and looks around. He never does anything. And then halfway through, like, he has to murder his girlfriend. And then suddenly he starts doing things and stepping up. But he's kind of a big wuss in the second one. He's just full bore going on. Now, of course, that's kind of the story, right? He evolved in the first one, even though it was like, like the flip of a switch when he finally just like shakes it off and starts going. I guess he had to kill Scotty before he finally woke up and took charge. Scotty was the man in the beginning. He might have been an asshole, but he took care of business. [00:13:07] Speaker C: No, he doesn't. [00:13:08] Speaker B: And Ash just stood around watching things. [00:13:10] Speaker C: All right, I'm going to, I'm going to disagree so hard on this one. I think the entire point is that Scott is fake bravado. He's putting on a strong front, but he's actually a coward. And Ash is the exact opposite. Ash has that quiet strength, but he doesn't come off that way. He kind of lets Scott lead cuz. [00:13:27] Speaker B: In the car over Scotty's shoulder as Scotty dismembered a body with an ax. Scotty got it done, man. I'm telling you. Scotty was, was going to. He was an. He had a lot of bravado. I wanted Scotty to die earlier in the movie than he did, but Scotty just stood behind until finally Scotty was out of the way. Then Ash stepped up. That's my viewing of it. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Scotty was all bravado in the car, talking a big game, yelling at the people on the side of the road, doing all that stuff. He gets to the cabin in the middle of nowhere, and all of a sudden he's like cautiously walking up to that door. The, the, the swing is banging against the wall and he's kind of looking freaked out. He's looking for the keys. He's like, I guess it's this one. Like, he's kind of cowardly. He's just kind of putting that fake volume, fake bravado over top of it. Whereas I think you see Ash grow as a person and kind of like come out of his shell a little bit. Maybe he's never had to be strong because Scotty was always There. So maybe you're right. When Scotty's out of the picture, now it's his time to shine. But I mean, I. I haven't seen Army Darkness in a long time, but from what I understand, he really steps up. He, like, is there for his friends for as long as he can. All of his friends die. Unfortunately, there's that kind of breaks him inside so that by the time you get to the third movie, he's kind of an. Doesn't care about anybody because everybody he loves has just died in front of him, some of them at his hand. So I. I don't know that I. I mean, I. I understand what you're saying, but I think it's so that you can see the progression of his character. [00:14:54] Speaker B: I just felt the progression was a little too rapid. It happened kind of suddenly. I just kept if it didn't. I remember army of Darkness and I'm watching Evil Dead 1 and I'm like, why is Ash just sitting there? Why is he just staring? Why is he just like, why is he letting all this happen? And then Scotty dies and Ash is like, okay, time to get out the chainsaw. And it takes off then he's an everyman. [00:15:21] Speaker C: He's your way into the film. You can watch the movie as him. And you're like, what is going on? Because you don't know what's happening. If you walked in there with a boomstick on the first episode, like Arnold Schwarzenegger and just started shooting Deadites the second they showed up, you'd be like, well, hey, the movie would be like five minutes long. And B, you'd just be like, eh, whatever. But like, you kind of see the progress. Yeah, it's fair. [00:15:44] Speaker B: You got yourself a plot there. [00:15:48] Speaker C: I think it was really interesting how. How this movie did Evil Dead one specifically. I have so much more to say about Evil Dead 1 than Evil Dead 2. Like, even that too. Like, that's why I was like, I don't want to do two episodes because, like, I have no idea what I'm gonna say for an hour about Evil Dead 2. It's like, wasn't for me. Moving on. Evil Dead 1, I thought, did a really good job of kind of giving you everything you needed for the story in the first little bit, right? You get like five minutes in the car with these people. You understand what you're doing. You're going out to the middle of absolute nowhere. You can kind of see that, like, you know, they're not just like 10 minutes from a town. Like, they are Nowhere Land. You can see the dynamics between the couples and the. The different people in the vehicle. Once they get to the cabin, you very quickly discover the basement. That's creepy. The book, the weaponry, like, everything you kind of need for this entire movie is set up relatively quickly and then all just piles out of control from there. But I think it does a good job of giving you what you need to see in order to get where you need to go. There's no, what do you call this, like, deus ex moments in this movie because everything is preemptively given to you earlier on. Do you agree with that, Will? [00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I think over overall, that sounds right. I. I do feel like the Evil Dead is a very much more traditional horror movie in its tropes, in the way it unfolds and. And it kind of really popularized the cabin in the woods movie trope. So I think it's kind of renowned for multiple reasons. And on top of that, it just, it. It takes gore to the next level of like, just extreme foolishness almost. But in this one, reserved to the point like, it's not supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be scary. And when it was released in 81, it was very scary for people. Just the amount of gratuitous violence was. Was quite over the top. And. And that's kind of what got people terrified in the seats when it released. Right? [00:17:50] Speaker B: I mean, woman got ripped by a bush. [00:17:53] Speaker A: So, I mean, that was. And to this day is still a very epic scene. Yeah, but like, super creepy, right? [00:18:01] Speaker C: Desperately wanted to talk about that, and I wanted to stay away from that specific word, but, oh, well, you beat me to it. [00:18:09] Speaker A: Disclaimer at the beginning of the. [00:18:11] Speaker C: I'm already marking the time. Be like, censored again. [00:18:13] Speaker B: Watch out. [00:18:14] Speaker C: Yeah, that scene, I mean, we were laughing about at the time, it's. It's really weird. And it goes on for shockingly long time for what it is. And it's just one of those, like, you can't help but look at it and be like, you know, Quentin Tarantino puts women's feet in every single one of his movies. I think this is saying more about Sam Raimi than I think he meant to say about Sam Raimi. I think this is one of a few points of the movie where, like, I don't know if they would cut this out because it's kind of how the whole thing gets started. But, like, I feel like this is going to be the biggest tripping moment for lot of people if they're just coming to this blindly. [00:18:50] Speaker B: But, you know, what with demonic possession and when you deal with demonic stuff like that, I. I notice the demonic aspects in movies are usually accentuated with an air of sexuality to them. This was kind of that moment. There wasn't a lot of sexuality in it. There was a little bit of, like, flirtatious female demons, like, teasing them in a way or something, but nothing really else. And. And this kind of, like, put that in there. I mean, we see stuff in the Exorcist, things like that, where there's. There's an air of sexuality to it that makes it really horrifying because you're taking in all the aspects of humanity when the demon is possessing someone or doing something. And so I'm glad it was in this movie. Was it done perfectly? Maybe not it. Was it over the top? Certainly it was a. Definitely a shocking moment. Number two didn't have a shocking moment like that. Maybe it had its own shocking moments, but that one they didn't redo and I don't know, I thought it was good. I thought it added to the movie. It was definitely rough. Like, everything in Evil Dead one was very rough. But I'm really glad they put it in there. And I think that we've seen a lot of that sort of thing in movies since then, and. And I. I appreciated that scene for what it was. [00:20:15] Speaker A: That's fair. Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it fit the movie. I didn't think it was, like, crazy out of place because it's such a twisted concept to begin with. Like, the Deadites and these evil spirits, they're not like, just go and kill everybody. They're, like, taunting people. They are like. They are messing with people's heads, constantly coming and going, you know, doing anything, just laughing, sitting, laughing at you. You know, not doing anything, but just sitting and laughing at you. Like, wildly laughing out. Out of control, like. So I didn't feel like it was out of place, but it was, like, shocking because it was one of the first things that happened right in. In. In the. In the change to. To horror in this picture. Right. So I think it's. It really hits you hard and says, okay, this is where we're going. Get ready. Right? [00:21:08] Speaker C: I guess it makes sense in the sense, like, most of the Deadites seem to enjoy inflicting pain more so than, like, a zombie that needs to hurt you to sustain itself. Right. Like, they're almost more getting joy out of the act than anything else. So from that perspective, maybe. I don't know who talks about this for Long. What do you think about the actual Deadites themselves? Whether it be like makeup or personality types? I found personally his girlfriend sitting on the floor with a little bit less makeup and just kind of mocking him. Kind of the creepiest one. Like there was no, there was no true threat coming from her from a good chunk of the movie. She was just kind of teasing him and, and like psychologically damaging him maybe, but she wasn't like actively trying to bite him or rip him apart or anything like that. And I found that actually a lot creepier than any of the other Deadites in this one. What do you think? Br? [00:22:04] Speaker B: I, I, I agree with that sentiment later. We're going to see in some other movies where there's a lot of more, a lot more communication with the Deadites remembering them as they were people and now seeing them being possessed by demons or whatever, you know, as Deadites. And I think that is a very scary thing. And, and it was, it was something I enjoyed seeing. They played a little bit of that in, in two with the grandmother underneath the basement, you know, and she's sticking her head out and she's, you know, hush little baby singing the lullaby and stuff. Not as creepy. They didn't pull it off as well with that. And of course we didn't have time to get in touch with those characters as much. But I, I do like the, the possession and, and, and we, you mentioned earlier hurting the people that they're possessing. At one point, I can't remember which girl it was, but she like bites her own hand off. You know, like they just do weird stuff and they, and they hurt themselves because they're hurting the person they're possessing and they're enjoying watching other people watch them damage this human being. And it's, it's creepy, it's scary. And the, the effects that they used, though not top notch, were so much fun for me to watch when they do those, those horrific scenes. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I like the Deadites. I like how they kind of evolve. I liked, like you said, them coming in and out of the possession or trying to trick them even there. I think it's the second one as well where Linda's head is in the vice and she's like, don't hurt me, don't hurt me. I thought you said you take protect me, Ash and all that. I think that's super fun. I think that's super fun. And then, you know, Summer list, just straight up creepy looking. They're not even human anymore. They are just absolute creatures of horror and just deformity And I like that, too. I. I think it was a fun balance of, like, going back and forth, just switching it up to keep us guessing as an audience as well. [00:24:09] Speaker C: Yeah. I will say I. I agree with Brian to an extent that I didn't really like the claymation in the movie, but at the same time, the only time in both of these movies that the hair on the back of my neck went up was during one of the claymation scenes. Like, it just struck something so alien that it actually hit the back of my neck. It's been a minute. I want to say it's the one. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Was it the giraffe or the ballerina? [00:24:36] Speaker C: More the giraffe, I think. In the basement. I want to say. [00:24:41] Speaker B: Oh, when she comes at him on the stairs and her face changes as she lunges at Ash. [00:24:45] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Maybe that's a creepy. And it's like. I'm not saying it was a greatly done effect, but it just hit me. Right. [00:24:51] Speaker B: She was so scared trying to get out of there. That's why I like that one myself. [00:24:55] Speaker C: Yeah. So it did hit something animalistic for me, and I will give it props for that. I would agree with you that I didn't love the effect itself, but just something about it was so alien and so different, whereas most other people were just like people with makeup on, you know, like, it just didn't quite hit in quite the same way. Could it be done better? Absolutely. I'm looking forward to watching the remake of this because I think that one will be terrifying. Obviously not as fun. No Ash, Stuff like that. But I think that'll be really, really interesting. What they could do, essentially. My understanding, I have not seen it, is that it'll be Evil Dead if they had a budget and technology. And I'm curious what that looks like. [00:25:32] Speaker A: It's been a while since I've seen it, so we'll have to reconvene when we do. But that's the plan. Yeah, I guess. These movies in general, all of them, but the first one specifically, kind of hit me in a very personal level. This was like a B movie, low budget, like 350k. They had to scramble to raise the funds to even get it off the ground. It took over, like, two years to make because they ran out of money and they had to do reshoots and all of this, and it was just a testament to how badly they wanted it. And just coming from a theater background where I've created my own theater and had my own company, like, my first theatrical production was it was a parody of a B horror movie. And so it just, like, it parallels my life so much that I just, like, see all the work they're putting in and, and all the tricks they're doing to make it low budget, like, within a low budget, but to make it look really fun and just like, because you're, you don't have the budget to do things, you get super creative in how you do things. Like, Sam Raimi's Ramocam is, like, so perfect for horror movies. Just, like, rushing through the forest and, like, bowling down doors and things. [00:26:54] Speaker B: It's like, were they on a motorcycle or a bicycle? Because I've heard both. [00:26:58] Speaker A: I think it depends on which movie and when, but in the first one, I believe he's just running. And then there's, there's a scene in the water as well where he's getting pushed in a dinghy by Bruce Campbell in the back. And it's like, Bruce Campbell isn't just an actor. Like, he's doing everything behind the scenes as well. Like, it just goes to show that everybody's putting everything into these movies. And so that, that really, like, strikes a chord with me and, and is gonna, like, I'm trying not to let it up the score higher than it should be, but it's going. [00:27:29] Speaker B: No, I think just put it out there. I think you should, it is your score to appreciate this movie because of how hard they try. I love looking at some of these scenes and going, oh, hey, that's how they get the blood to spray out of the wall. It's actually falling down and they turn the camera 90 degrees or, or, you know, you know, how they get the blood to fill up that light bulb and all these little things that they do. I think those are amazing. And, and, and they're using a lot of ingenuity to shore up their resources and make something amazing. You know, movies, I, I, I say this a lot, but movies like the Blair Witch, where it's a super low budget, they come up with very creative new ways to make a scary story. Something telling, something exciting and something interesting. I appreciate that. And I, I think if it strikes a personal chord with you, that should definitely show in the scoring. [00:28:18] Speaker C: Absolutely. I completely agree with everything you just said. I know there are movies where I'm gonna raise the score based on my own personal feelings towards the movie, whether it be nostalgia or knowing something about how it got made that I just think is really cool. I mean, again, we're gonna go back and cite Clerks on that one. But even Things like when I watched Ben Hur, like, two years ago, I spent the entire movie, like, how did they do this in 1948 or 52 or whatever. It was like, how did they make this work? How did they make that work? And that added to the experience tfold. So if that adds to the experience for you on this one, let it run wild with it. I also, I will say to some extent, I do have to give Bruce Campbell serious props because he is doing a lot of physical acting in this movie, and I do not get the impression he had a budget for a stuntman. So my guess is he's doing a lot of physical acting in this movie. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:09] Speaker C: Throwing himself into walls, bookshelves, doors, glass, literally, whatever they have to do. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Evil Dead 2 where his hands possessed and he's like, in the kitchen fighting himself, breaking. That was all him, all improvised, one take. And Sam was like, oh, that was awesome. Let's just keep it. We don't want to have you to do that again. Yeah. And I thought, like, it was so good. It's like him being able to, like, segregate that hand. Like he had no control over it. But, like, him acting, I thought he did really good job on, like, separating the two entities and, and, and fighting himself. I thought as like an unknown physical actor, trained actor, he did a stellar job. And I think his physicality shows throughout these movies, for sure. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker B: These are the kinds of movies that I wish they hired somebody to follow around, behind and film everything, document everything. The documentation. I love those behind the scene films of how movies are made. This would be a great one. That scene where Ash's hand is dragging him across the floor inch by inch. I want the wide angle shot of who's pushing Ash because, you know, he couldn't pull himself by his own fingers, Right? Yeah, but, like, that looked cool. It looked real. It looked like his hand was really doing it, you know? And so, yeah, these, these, these movies were super fun to watch from a technical perspective. I, I felt the first one was scarier than the second one, but the second one still had some pretty scary stuff. I felt the basement scenes in number two were way more scary than anything in. In the first one, that was a crazy, weird basement. There were lots of little things that were wrong. What do they call them? Continuity issues? Oh, yeah, right. Where somebody's hair length changes or their hair color changes. There were tons and tons and tons of scenes. [00:31:10] Speaker C: Makeup changes drastically. [00:31:10] Speaker B: Someone was absolutely drenched in blood and they turn around like a little dribble on their Shirt. You know, tons of those scenes happen all the time. Because they used a lot of fake blood in this. [00:31:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And fake other things. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:26] Speaker A: Milk and green ooze. [00:31:30] Speaker B: In the second one, there's a lot of green. Green blood everywhere. There was some cool little Easter eggs that they hid in the background. In one scene, you can see Freddy Krueger's claws hanging in there. And that was. That was to pay tribute because in one of the Nightmare and Elm street movies in the background, Evil Dead 1 was playing on the TV. And so in Evil Dead 2, they hung Freddy Krueger's claws in the. The workshed when he goes to get the chainsaw. And you can see it behind him after he attaches it to his hand and cuts the barrel of his gun off. You can see it hanging on the door there. Couple of other little things throughout the movie that were really fun and. And there's just a lot, a lot to be had watching these movies. I very much enjoyed going back and seeing him a second time. Fifteenth time, whatever. [00:32:16] Speaker A: I saw them just to jump on that. Like, fun little tidbits. There was also the Hills have Eyes poster in first one, I believe, and it's ripped in half. And that was a call out to Jaws appearing in the Hills have Eyes poster. Because Jaws was, like, quoted as being the scariest movie of all time. So the Hills have Eyes put that poster in their movie kind of claiming they're going to be the scariest movie of all time. So Evil Dead put it in their movie saying, no, ours is going to be the scariest movie of all time. So it's like a really fun little Easter egg in there for that as well. [00:32:48] Speaker C: I saw the Hills of I poster. I didn't know that background, though. That's interesting. [00:32:53] Speaker A: Yeah, there's lots of fun little things in this movie. In both movies. There's also. Run was saying something about the basement. I can't remember what I was going to go off on. [00:33:03] Speaker B: There was the pages drop in the water and then he immediately picks them up and they're all dry. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. A bunch of the continuity, especially in the first one, not so much in the second one, is their continuity issues. The first one again comes from the them spending over two years and having to reshoot. A lot of the actors left after the first initial shoot, which was like three weeks or something. And they had like. It was like super cold. They were sleeping inside the cabin. Like, conditions were horrible. And then it was just Bruce and Sam and his brother. Like, his brother played A bunch of, oh shoot. His brother was playing a bunch of the, they call them fake shemps. Which is another like Three Stooges reference. Okay. To like be in the makeup and as the ghouls instead of the actual actors. Right. Because they had left the project already. So there's all kinds of continuity things. Bruce Campbell is like two years older, so he looked physically larger. He looks different, his hair is different. There's tons of continuity errors because of that. But again I, I like give it leeway because it kind of gives it kind of. Its like B horror movies. [00:34:08] Speaker C: It's kind of where the charm comes from. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:34:11] Speaker B: It, it almost gets its own genre, right? Because, because it is a B horror movie, because it is this low budget thing, because it is this gem that so many people appreciate. It almost makes its own little sub genre of the horror section where you know, where these, these two movies and to an extent army of Darkness are, are different from the, the last two movies that we'll see in the franchise that have the big budget more recent and are trying for the big scares and stuff like that and, and that kind of, I, I, maybe that's part of why we grade this and give it a little more, more grace I guess. Or maybe it's just because it's just so much fun to watch. [00:34:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I still of, I'm of the opinion that kind of creating the horror comedy genre like they did kind of stands on its own like a testament to how good these movies are that 40 years later people are still loving these movies because they're new. It was the first time seeing something like that and I feel they were like so committed to making it what they wanted it to be. Not so much the first one, but second and third one that you just kind of have to give them props for that. Right. Mm. [00:35:32] Speaker B: For, for me, one thing that I initially thought, and you've kind of changed my opinion on this, talking to, to you guys as you guys always do when we get in, into these little collaborations. I originally felt like Evil Dead 2 felt like it was entirely made to get Evil Dead 1 to army of Darkness is what it really felt like. [00:35:57] Speaker A: More so than that it was, it was going to be army of Darkness, right. So when they, when they acquired the new producer, the producer's like, I just want a cabin in the woods just like the first one. I want it very minimal, just set in that one central location for the majority of the film. So Sam Raimi was like, I wanted to do the army of Darkness script but revamped it to, like, expand on the first storyline and then into army of Darkness. [00:36:26] Speaker B: So I'm not out of line thinking that you're not out of line. I mean, right? There's the first 10 minutes, which recaps, readjusts, whatever, and then, you know, Ash wakes up, and it's the cabin scene to army of Darkness. And that's. Yeah. Okay, Dan, you feel like we can score this one of these at least? [00:36:46] Speaker C: Yeah, let's score number one. Okay, I'm gonna go first. I don't know where we're gonna land on this one. I feel like we're gonna be a little all over the place as far as scoring. Usually I can kind of sell, like, okay, you're. You're kind of the most negative or Will is or something. I have no idea. I'm gonna throw my score out there first, and I have no idea. I'm. I sincerely doubt I'm gonna be the high one here on this one, but I don't know if I'm gonna be the lowest either. We'll see. As far as Evil Dead 1 goes, it really surprised me, as I mentioned, hadn't seen these in a long time. Did not like them at all in high school. Went back to this one. Went into it thinking, I'm not going to like this. Which is always a terrible way to watch a movie. Right. You should always try and come from a neutral position. And this one really turned my. Turn me around. Like, fairly early on, I couldn't tell you the exact scene, but fairly early on, I was like, that's a clever camera angle. And like, oh, the music's actually really working. Like, it's. It's doing a good job of setting up how tense this is. And it was kind of like, oh, all these little things I can appreciate. Yes, the acting is not very good in the first one, unfortunately. You can disagree with me on that if you want, but it's. It's just not. [00:37:48] Speaker A: No arguments. [00:37:49] Speaker C: The makeup is hit and miss, but there are enough things in this one that are really, really well done. And it feels like such a. A guy and his friends just went out to make something and they ended up making something beautiful. Like, not like, it's gory, but you know what I mean? Like, they. They did a wonderful job making what they set out to make with what they had, and I have to give them huge props for that. The acting brings it down a little bit. The entertainment value, I don't know how much will be there the third, fourth, fifth time if I ever Go back and watch these ones. But for the most part, I really did enjoy this much more than I was anticipating. I. I don't know. It's. There's so many good things to talk about this from a How did they make it? How do they get this to work? How do they get that to happen? Sense. And I find less good ways to talk about it from a Did I just sit down for an hour and a half and enjoy myself watching a movie? Am I gonna go back and revisit this movie often? Is this something I'm gonna recommend to people? So I gave it a bit of grace. I think this lands relatively honestly for me. I put this at a 60, so it's. It's a bit of a pass. But it's not like I'm not raving about it, but I liked it more than I was expecting to. Where do you land on this one, Will? [00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I've. Again, this one has a little special place in my heart. I definitely have seen the first one more than the second, and I've seen Army of Darkness the most. Just putting that out there. But that's not. I don't know if that's going to be indicative of my scoring of the movies. This movie, I thought it did so much with so little. And I think, I think, Dan, you said you're not a huge Sam Raimi fan overall, but I feel like this movie actually showed us why Sam Raimi is as success, as successful as he is. Like, he's got a lot of talent in what makes shots work, creative ways to make things happen. And I. I love that he. He puts in his own little insider gags and jokes and things, references throughout his movies. I don't know, I just really enjoy that about him. Maybe because he doesn't take himself too seriously. And maybe that's what it is where some directors are like the best of the best. Anyway. That said, yes, I think the genre wise. I don't think we can argue that it's misplaced in the horror genre. The first one, it scared a lot of people. And for its time, I think it was one of the goriest movies to come out and kind of solidified its place in the horror genre echelons, like upper echelons. Acting was not great at all, but it's such a simple story and the characters are very simple that it doesn't bother me too much. And the writing itself, you know, there's a lot of questions as to why things happen the way they do. And in a horror movie, I Don't think you need all the answers to that. So I think you can have some leeway as to why the writing isn't as up to snuff as it needs to be. I do really enjoy the direction of this, and I do think it holds up for as cheaply looking as some of the effects are. Like, you can see the. They're just painted gloves on these monsters or whatever it is. But I, again, if it kind of adds to that B horror movie vibe and the charm of the movie. So overall, I threw this at a 73 out of 100. [00:41:24] Speaker C: And, Brian, where does that leave it for you? [00:41:27] Speaker B: Okay, so I would definitely recommend this movie to just about anybody who enjoys movies. I think this is something that everybody should take a look at to see what can be done on a low budget. What can be done when you put your heart and soul into a passion project, and I think achieved so much more than it. It had a right to, honestly, because, let's face it, the plot, the acting, even the direction of the story itself were pretty weak. I mean, the plot and the acting for sure, directing in how they achieve some of these technical scenes was superb. But, like, you know, I think overall the directing could have been better in that they should have had a little bit more foresight in some of these things. They could have avoided some of the pitfalls and made things a little bit smoother because there are so many subtle missteps that us movie lovers pick up on throughout it. The effects were absolutely stellar for its time, for its budget. And frankly, I think that those effects actually hold up. They're a lot of fun to watch, even in this day and age when so, so often horror movies are taking an easy way out from making something look scary and gory and disgusting and make you cringe and make the hair tingle on the back of your neck. They take an easy way out because they have the budget to do the simple things, which is kind of pass it off to somebody, put some CGI in there or something like that. So these practical effects were amazing. And the story behind how they're pulled off is amazingly done. The one thing that really pushes this movie and you don't even notice it until you stop to think about it is the sound effects and the music to it. It really gets you into the moment, into the mood of watching this movie. The when the demon is moving through the woods or bursting through the house and you hear that kind of sound and then it instantly changes to somebody else's view who hears nothing. That stark, drastic Change in that sound effect just rivets you, whether you like it or it annoys you or makes you cringe. You're watching. You're paying attention when that is happening. I've never seen anything like that in any other movie, to tell you the truth. That. That hard. You know, that clash of sound effects, little things like that throughout this film make it great. It's just so much fun to watch. So, for me, I enjoy this a lot. And I'm actually surprised I'm giving this a higher score than Will, but I came out at 79 on this one. I thought Evil Dead 1 is a masterpiece in its own right, even with all its flaws. [00:44:29] Speaker C: I am a little shocked you went as high as that, but that's awesome. That gives our rating of evil dead a 71. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Overall. I'm okay with that. [00:44:42] Speaker C: Which now? [00:44:46] Speaker A: Fun movie. [00:44:47] Speaker C: Going into Evil Dead 2 is something I wanted to say earlier on, but I. I didn't quite get the chance. I have said a couple of times, quite a few times, actually. I'm not a Sam Raimi fan. There's not very many movies of his that I enjoyed. I watched Evil Dead 1 and 2 with a friend, and I watched the first one, and I was like, was I wrong? Like, is he actually really kind of brilliant? Like, I actually enjoyed this way more than I thought I was going to. And then we watched Evil Dead 2 and I was like, nope, I just don't like his comedy. That's. That's what it actually is, is I don't find his comedy funny. And so when Evil Dead 2 is primarily a slapstick comedy, I found it tedious. I'm sorry. I. I know a lot of people. [00:45:33] Speaker B: Love these movies being batched into the wall all the time. [00:45:36] Speaker C: There were a couple of times, like, a movie can be bad overall, and you can still enjoy, like, moments of it, right? Like, it's not like I hated 100% of this movie, but I really didn't enjoy this one. Now, I will say as much as I just said the comedy, you. You reminded me of one thing there, Brian, when you were talking about the sound building up as. It's like, chasing somebody. There's one scene where it's chasing a girl towards the house, and then she, like, gets inside the door and it's like, oh. And, like, it makes this, like, sad noise. I died. I died. You got me on that one, Sam. That one was hilarious. But overall, so much of this just felt so flat for me. So while some of the things that worked in the first one Camera angles, sound effects, stuff like that. The enjoyment of number two was so much lower for me. The comedy of it did nothing for me. The acting in the first one wasn't great, but it felt like they were trying in the second one wasn't great. It felt like they didn't care. And now you can disagree with me and say, no, they're trying to be more comedic. They're trying to do whatever they want. But that was the impression I left when I was watching the movie. It felt like, right, it didn't work for you. They were banking on name recognition instead of actually trying to be like, let's, let's make something great. It felt like they were trying to make something great with the first one and they were just trying to make a buck with the second one. I realized I'm going to get so much hate on the Internet for this because this is a well loved franchise. But I got to be honest, this one just did not hit the mark for me. Now, it did do some things right and overall I can still appreciate this on some level. So I did give it a 30 as opposed to like, you know, really getting down there with the Highlander franchise. But overall, like, I could go back and watch Evil Dead one again. I. I don't think I'm ever going to watch Evil Dead 2 again. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Wow, you tanked this. [00:47:19] Speaker C: I. I'm sorry, guys. I did not care for this whatsoever. And I'm so curious and nervous to watch Angry army of Darkness. [00:47:27] Speaker A: Oh my God. Wait, you've seen army of Darkness? [00:47:29] Speaker C: Like when I was like 18. I've not seen it since. I could not tell you anything except for the skeletons are kind of funny. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Get ready. You didn't like the comedy in this? [00:47:39] Speaker C: I don't like the comedy in Spider Man. I don't like the comedy in Doctor Strange. I don't like Sam Raimi's comedy. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Wow. [00:47:47] Speaker C: All right. Okay, let's go to you cleaning agent. What do you got? [00:47:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I enjoyed, I enjoyed the mashup. I enjoyed that there is still scary parts in this movie. I enjoyed that they went with what they know, which is slapstick comedy. And just the idea of blending those two seems like it should just be like oil and water. But somehow they made it work for me. I loved it. I loved the machismo that Ash becomes in this movie. And you will see tenfold in army of Darkness. But just like him being like, you know what? The, the balance between him being like, I got this and him being completely out of his mind crazy. I love That I love the. The back and forth. I thought it was. Again, in this movie, like, the first, they keep you guessing as to what's gonna happen next because you don't know if it's going to be a serious, horrific event or a slapstick comedy routine. And I thought that was, like, super fun how they could twist the genre on its head that way and still keep all the elements of a. Of a horror movie intact. So I guess I like Sam Raimi. And you can go to hell, Dan. [00:49:14] Speaker C: Wow. Okay. Episode six. There won't be a seventh. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I'm just. I'm just joking, honestly. That's my humor. So anyway, yeah, I don't know, maybe. Dan, may I ask, did you grow up watching Three Stooges or Abbott and Costello or any of those? [00:49:33] Speaker C: No. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Okay, so maybe that's. [00:49:35] Speaker C: I don't know that I've ever seen. I mean, I've seen some skits from Abbott and Costello, but, like, you know, who's on third? Kind of who's on first? Kind of stuff, which I actually do find quite funny. Three Stooges has never been my bag. Like, even as a kid, I remember being like, this is dumb. [00:49:51] Speaker A: So that. That totally tracks that. In my mind. It was like, you're obviously not gonna be a fan of them if you didn't like this. Like, it's so ingrained in this movie that it just was like, if you don't like it, you don't like it. And that's totally legit. That's totally legit. [00:50:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:05] Speaker A: But, yeah, aside from that, I feel like. I feel like this movie, it had more budget, so they went bigger with everything, and. And they chose to go the direction that they loved, which I. I appreciate that they're like, oh, we have to save our careers, but, you know, we're gonna do it our way. And I. I can commend them for doing. Doing that, even if it's not Everybody's a favorite combination of genres. Yeah. I think the story was a little bit more fleshed out, which was nice. Fleshed. Good one. I feel like Ash didn't really have time to develop a character, but was like. Because he was literally having thrown on him constantly in this film, that he just had time to react, which was fine by me. I didn't mind that they brought in the other characters to give them, you know, more Deadites throughout the film. I think that was fine. The story itself, maybe it's a weird direction they took. Like, they're trying to extend this, and that may be the. The biggest Complaint I have is like, Evil Dead was a standalone. It was quite a closed story and they forced it to continue, which is weird. And maybe that doesn't quite fit well or settle well. And I can totally get that. But because of all the other like, fun entertainment value in this, I kind of let it go a little bit because you just kind of fall in love with Ash's character a little bit in this more than the first one. And then, and then it just sets it up for the third one. [00:51:44] Speaker B: So. [00:51:45] Speaker A: So well, I feel. So anyway, overall, I felt genre wise. It invented a genre, so I cannot, I cannot, I can't. I can't fault it in any way. It. It literally invented a genre as far as I'm concerned. The splat stick horror comedy genre, acting maybe slightly better, but not great. Obviously you could see some characterization, but not a lot writing. Again, slightly better than the first one because they did kind of try to elaborate the story and why things are happening a little bit more. A direction I felt was similar to the first. You know, Sam's doing his thing whether you like it or not. Dan. And I feel this one holds up again. I mean, again, you can't go 30, 40 years and people still raving about these movies and not say it doesn't hold up. I liked the over the top deadite makeups in these. Like they went off the wall crazy with some of the special effects and I, I appreciated that. Maybe not to everybody's taste. Overall, 77 out of 100, up slightly from the first for me, even though I prefer watching the first movie. [00:53:02] Speaker C: Interesting. This is an improvement for you. Okay. [00:53:04] Speaker A: Yep, yep. [00:53:06] Speaker C: Where do you land, Brian? [00:53:07] Speaker B: Okay, well, as always, you guys are both wrong. So for, for me, the second movie was so much more challenging to encompass than the first one because like Clean says, the first one was a standalone movie and it could have just ended. And the thing is, is you can't get from the first movie to army of Darkness because you need to see Ash's progression and change in his character, which happens in number two. All the things you guys talk about, the change in budget, that years passed, the. The cat, you know, they extend the cast. I will say I thought the acting in number two was worse than number one. I felt there were some serious low points in number one. But in number two, it was like all kind of the same and as an average, just below number one for me. I felt that those characters were very one dimensional and they used more like colorization to track those characters. You had the guy in blue Overalls. You had Nancy in her yellow shirt. You had Bobby Joe in her white shirt. And they were like these almost like color contrast. You had the other guy in his tan pants who didn't last very long. And then, of course, Ash, who's kind of in his. He's Ash, right? He's covered in blood most of the time. That's one thing I would have liked to have seen, is the extensive use of blood and gore in both movies, but especially in Number two. And they would turn around and they'd be clean again. And I wanted to see Ash accumulate this damage, which he takes so much damage in Number Two. And I didn't realize that was a joke. I'm kind of with Dan. I don't get that humor, but it didn't bother me. I just didn't get the joke. I just thought, this is just a guy being physically abused constantly throughout the movie. And that's kind of the torment that these demons are putting him through. And so it was fine. It didn't really add or take away from me. And I didn't get quite as much humor out of Number two as. As Clean did. But it was still. It was still solid for me. [00:55:20] Speaker C: The. [00:55:20] Speaker B: The direction on Number two, it seemed all over the place. There was the. The mental sequence when Ash is just losing his mind, and that's like. It was just him losing his mind for a period of time. And then you introduce new characters, you know, a. You know, third of the way into the movie. At one point, they're listening to an audio tape and they're like, she was buried in the basement. And out pops a new character just like that. It was like, what? Really? He just wrote that in with a line of dialogue. Okay, whatever. So there was like just the. The flow of the movie was a little weird and everything. Not a deal breaker, but it was. I don't know. I just think it could have used a little bit more polish. I think a lot of this movie just felt like it needed a little bit more something to really make it work. Once again, the sound for this movie was amazing. That's what really helped me stay in. It helped me be excited, helped me be scared, helped me be on the edge of my seat. Help me is the sound effects, the scoring, all of that. The movie doesn't hold up quite as well as the first one. For me, the claymation scenes just take me out of the film. It is something that happens to me as a viewer, and I'm like, oh, we're doing this now, okay? And it Just stop everything. I'm like, this isn't cool. I, I want the, the, the rubber hands breaking apart and blood squirting out of it. That looks so ridiculous, you know, So I, I want more of people being pulled into the basement and they get just blended and splashed back on a person. And then Nancy stands up, she's got dribble of blood on her blouse. Come on, show me the gore. I still had a lot of fun watching it. Overall, it took a little bit of a dip for me. This one went down to 72 in total. I still think it's a fantastic movie. And the reason I would still recommend this to someone is because I'm gonna recommend number one and you have to watch number two because you can't live without watching what we're gonna be talking about next week. [00:57:24] Speaker A: I agree. I agree. You have to watch all three of these movies. They're or none of them. [00:57:29] Speaker C: I'm just gonna throw that there. [00:57:31] Speaker A: They're a package deal. They're a package deal. 100%. [00:57:36] Speaker C: All right, well, so far that gives Evil Dead a r rating of 71 and Evil Dead 2 rating of 60. Now where those land for you guys? It was a little higher than you thought they'd be. A little lower than you thought they'd be, I think. I, I know this is a well loved franchise, but the way Brian was talking about this before we got started, I'm shocked at how high his score is. [00:57:58] Speaker B: I don't know. I just. I still like it. [00:58:00] Speaker A: Even though. [00:58:01] Speaker B: Even though so many things piss me off about it, I still like it. Like, I enjoy Ash's character and there's just certain sequences where you're like, that is so much fun to watch. You know, the enjoyment level in these movies is kind of is, is really topping out for me. And, you know, I, I kind of have a feeling that throughout our rating, you're gonna just see higher than average scores from me. Because they're franchises and you don't make a franchise without somebody enjoying it. And I'm kind of a positive person. I can find the enjoyment. [00:58:34] Speaker C: So we'll see, which is totally fair. I. [00:58:41] Speaker A: I feel Dan's just going to tank this whole franchise for no good reason. [00:58:47] Speaker C: There's a very good reason. I've got a couple of them. I feel like I was articulate. I could be wrong. I could be more articulate. [00:58:53] Speaker A: I don't like Sam Raimi, so these movies can't be good. Oh, Daniel. [00:58:58] Speaker C: All right. Wow. Okay. In fairness, I straight up said he shocked me with the first one. I liked the first one quite a bit, far more than I thought I was going to. And I walked into it thinking I was gonna hate the heck out of it. So I. I don't know. I think I. I think that one came up a little quite a bit higher for me than I was anticipating. [00:59:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I was. I was actually surprised you rated the first one as accurately as it should have been rated. [00:59:20] Speaker C: Wow. All right. That has been Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2. What'd you think of the scores? Leave a comment down below if you think it was too high, too low, right in the right place. These movies are, depending on who you ask, awful or fun or just awfully fun. We'll see you next week.