Ep 76 - Rumble in the Bronx (1995)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Rumble in the Bronx, 1995. Love is in the air, but in the Bronx, things move fast. And firsttime visitor Kyung goes from hearing the bells of his uncle's wedding to getting his bell rung by the local gangs. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Hello, everybody, and welcome back to our rating. This is the show where I get together with a couple of my friends, we take a movie franchise, break it down by movie, give it an overall score, and throw it back up on the board to get see where it lands compared to the other movie franchises. Now, you'll notice this week we're talking about Rumble in the Bronx, which is not part of any franchise. That's because we're doing our March movie Madness where we are each going to pick a movie, can be any movie we want, and we're going to discuss that one. This kind of gives us a way to flex our muscles a little bit and talk about something other than a franchise, because we've been doing that for a year and a half, and it's kind of nice to talk about other movies. So this week, Will got to choose Rumble in the Bronx. So I'm going to start with Brian. Brian, is this your first time seeing this one or is you. Have you seen it before? [00:01:01] Speaker C: I thought I had seen it before, Dan, but it turns out that I'd only seen the second half of the film. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:01:09] Speaker C: In my opinion, the more memorable half maybe, I don't know. So, yeah, so I started watching this. I'm like, wait, I don't know this film. And then I got halfway through and I was like, okay, yeah, I have seen it, but I hadn't seen the first half. So that's it. I'd seen half. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Okay, I've never seen this. I've seen the poster for years. I can remember it at my local store, but never, never rented it. Never watched it until this week. But of course, Will, this is your choice. You chose this one. And two years ago, we did a flicks that make you tick. And this was in your movies, flicks that make you tick. So go ahead, tell us what this movie means to you and why you chose it this week. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the main reason I chose Rumble in the Bronx for this specific encounter or our March Madness, so to speak, is because we haven't really done a martial arts movie yet. And so I thought that was the genre that we could tap into. And I really enjoyed the martial arts genre as a whole. And now this movie specifically was my introduction to Jackie Chan movies. I got to see this in theaters when it released in North America in 1996. Saw it with my family, who love action movies, martial arts movies. So it was a great experience that will always, always be memorable to me. Not to mention the style Jackie Chan brings to martial arts movies is something that I hadn't seen before. His fluidity on camera mixed with his comedic timing and just all around good nature, like, he's such a positive presence on screen. It's just something that I really was drawn towards and wanted me to make me dive in deeper into the Jackie Chan library. [00:02:49] Speaker C: Correct me if I'm wrong, Will, but this movie kind of opened the door for Jackie Chan to grow his career in Hollywood, right? [00:02:56] Speaker A: That's correct. He was already, like, a superstar in China with multiple movies under his belt. And this was probably his fifth attempt to break into Hollywood, his fifth movie. He did three or four movies prior to this, starting from, like, the 80s, early 80s. And then eventually he was like, you know what? I'm just gonna make my own movie because I know how to highlight myself. And I'll base it in New York. I'll put a lot of English in it. So it kind of appeals to the American audience. And it took off. The guy knows what he's doing, I think. [00:03:28] Speaker C: And speaking of knowing what he's doing, he does all his own stunts, correct? [00:03:32] Speaker A: Absolutely. Another huge draw for me is not only just actors that do their own stunts, but movies that you can see what's happening. You know, a lot of modern action movies, especially in Hollywood, it's a lot of shaky cam, quick cuts. Whereas traditionally, with martial arts or Asian, you know, martial arts movies, there's a lot of longer cuts. And you can see the fights happening. And I really appreciate the physicality and the choreography that goes into it. [00:04:05] Speaker C: And not only the fights, but some of the crazier stunts too. They don't pull away from the shot. It's not cg. It's all practically done right there. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:18] Speaker C: And the great part of this film, spoiler, is that afterwards, you get to see him fail at a whole bunch of those stunts, which not only him. Yeah, A lot of people. And looked painful, like there was a. There was blood shed making this movie. So it was really. It adds. It adds to the film to know how much was. Was put into it. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah, there was a really cool scene at the end there where you see Jackie Chan jumps and unfortunately looks like he breaks his foot or ankle or something. [00:04:47] Speaker A: Break his ankle? [00:04:47] Speaker B: Yes, his ankle. But they have, like, a cast and, like, something that goes over the cast to look like his shoe. And Pant leg so that he can essentially keep going. And it doesn't look like. I'm sure if you look for it, you can. You can see it at some point in the movie, but I never noticed it without that. So, like, trooper Jackie Chan broke his ankle at some point, and it's just like, no, we got to keep filming. Like, the movie's not done. We got to keep going. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Not to mention he broke his ankle that day, kept working, then went to, like, an opening night of a different movie he was doing. Doing. It was like, oh, right. He never stops. He never stops, this guy. It's cr. Until, you know, one day he's gonna stop. But, I mean, incredible feats of strength this man has and endurance, his capabilities are through the roof as far as I'm concerned, for sure. [00:05:33] Speaker C: So I'm kind of curious, Will, this is. This one's your baby that you sent out to us. Where do you think. Without hearing anything from us, where do you think our numbers are gonna land? Do you think Dan's gonna come in high or low? You think I'm gonna come in high or low? What do you think? [00:05:48] Speaker A: O. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. [00:05:49] Speaker B: I like this game. This is good. [00:05:51] Speaker A: I think Dan's gonna come in real low for multiple reasons. This is not a perfect movie by any stretch of the word, and I know that. [00:05:59] Speaker B: I know that. [00:06:01] Speaker A: But it has a soft spot for me, and. And it does showcase a great talent on. On screen. Mainly Jackie Chan. This movie is about Jackie Chan. Everything else is pretty much. So I think Dan's gonna come in low for that reason. I also don't know if he's a big martial arts movie fan in general, whereas I think, Brian, you will be higher on the scale. But again, I don't think anybody's writing this. [00:06:30] Speaker C: For those of you who are new to this episode on. On YouTube, we rate these films, and we put them on a board at the end, and you can see where our scores come in. We average them out. When we're working with a franchise, we rate the entire franchise. But if it's a Patreon pick or one of our March Madness picks, it's a singular film going film versus film on the list. So you'll get to see those at the end, so stay tuned. [00:06:55] Speaker B: So one of the things I was reading up about this movie that I thought was actually kind of cool, unfortunately, I found it after the fact, not before, is the director whose name I just lost. Stanley. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Tom. Stanley Tom. Yep. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Is also a stunt person and wouldn't ask them to do Anything that he wouldn't do himself. So the scene where Jackie Chan jumps across the. The alley onto the. Like, the second floor. [00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker B: From the park, the next floor platform. That's actually Stanley Tong doing that. Like, he's like, no, no, let's. I wouldn't ask you to do that unless I do it. And he went and did it, and then they used his take instead of Jackie Chan's. From what I was reading online, because Jackie Chan's knees might not have held up quite as well to that you think you want to disagree with. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I don't know if that's true. I know Stanley Tong did do the stunt, but he did it with wire. Like, with a harness and wires. And. Okay, so he actually said, let's not do it with that because it actually makes it more dangerous. So then Jackie Chan did it without. As far as I've heard. I've heard. I've heard the rumor that Stanley Tong was the one that did it, but as far as I've researched, it's not from a credible source. [00:08:00] Speaker C: Well, at the. At the end of the film, they show the clip where Jackie jumps across. He lands, he gets back up, and he's like, yeah, I did it. And everybody's applauding him. [00:08:08] Speaker A: He's like, dancing. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Yeah, [00:08:12] Speaker B: that's fair. I'd read that the director was going to use wires, and then before he did, it was like, no, this is gonna make it more dangerous. Took it off and then went and did it. But just what I'm reading off IMDb. Right, fair, fair. No, insider. [00:08:24] Speaker C: No, we don't research these films, everybody. We just watch them. [00:08:28] Speaker B: I mean, I read IMDb. That's some level of research. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got. It usually has a lot of good facts on there. It does, yeah. No, but you are right. Stanley Tong is. It was a stuntman as well and did a lot of stunts and would do the stunts beforehand to make sure it was safe for the actors. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Most, if not all, this movie is filmed in Vancouver, British Columbia. Do you know if they hired just a lot of local talent? Because there is for Clean's Canadian Corner. [00:08:57] Speaker A: Is this just Canadian Corner? [00:09:00] Speaker B: It's Clean Canadian Corner. [00:09:02] Speaker A: I love it that you mentioned that, Dan. Yes. This is not filmed in the Bronx at all, as you can see. [00:09:08] Speaker B: You know, the move with the mountains in the background. [00:09:10] Speaker A: In the background in a lot of shots. And a lot of time was spent trying to, like, not do that. And Jackie Chan was like, you know what? I don't. I don't care. About that, let's focus on the action and, and the movie. And so I think they kind of let that go in a lot of scenes, as you could see. But yes, Nancy, the main love interest, Tony's girlfriend is Canadian actress Francois Yip. And she. This was kind of her breakout role. She did a lot of like Hong Kong movies afterwards and a few other big budget movies I think, like Blade, Trinity and things like that. She's had roles in but went back more into just the Vancouver TV like television scene. So she's done a lot of TV work in Vancouver and still does to this day. Tony, the big bad, well, gangster leader guy. I don't know if he's big or bad. Mark Acker Stream or actor Stream, I think his name is also a Canadian stuntman and actor. Unfortunately a couple years after this movie, he passed away. In filming the Crow TV series, there was like a stunt explosion happening. He wasn't even in the scene. He was just on set watching and some debris hit him and he passed away from those injuries. So unfortunate to hear that. And then Angelo Garvin Cross, you know, Angelo breaks his nose throughout. Super funny, sometimes annoying. Is still doing stunt and acting work. A lot of like stunt driving specifically, but on Deadpool 2, the Revenant, Inception, Mission Impossible, Ghost Protocol, etc. Etc. So like very, very well established work from these people. Those were the main ones that I just sort of. Because a lot of the like stuntmen and smaller roles would have been Canadian as well. But those were the main roles that people headlines and things like that. And then there was Danny. I don't know if Danny Morgan Lamb was Canadian or not, but I do know he quit acting shortly after this movie. And that brings me to my next question. Brian, what did you think of the child acting in this movie? [00:11:21] Speaker C: It was so horrible. Oh my goodness. That kind of tanked the overall acting score for me. There was. There were quite a few. There were quite a few people in this that I thought were doing an abysmal job of acting or maybe, maybe they were just going for that form of humor that doesn't appeal to me, I guess. But it was like so silly. Some of the stuff that they were saying in the way that they were acting, it kind of came off like high school play. But that kid was terrible. And of course they're dubbing over English words which makes it even that much worse. I'm sure there's something lost in translation. He like, there was one time when he would like gave a thumbs up and he was like he was like, you're a really cool dude or something. And it just didn't, it didn't really like, jive with the conversation. I don't remember what he was saying. I just remember he was giving this weird thumbs up thing and being like, you're my hero or something. It didn't fit with the conversation at all. And the kids, it was just. Yeah. Did not like that kid one bit. [00:12:23] Speaker B: That kid was playing a game gear that didn't have a game in it. And I believed him the entire time. I believed he was playing a game. So I think he was doing a [00:12:32] Speaker C: phenomenal job right from the start. I looked over at my son and I go, there's no cartridge in that console. Yeah, I know. Why does he keep playing it? [00:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:12:44] Speaker B: It was just like, it's a small little blunder, but it's one of those, like, that is such an easy fix. Like, yeah, like duct tape, even like some black electrical tape. And I'd be like, okay, maybe, but like, you can see the silver. Oh. Anyways, I won't rag on it. Okay. [00:12:59] Speaker A: I mean, I, I do believe it's very rare that people are going to martial arts movies for the acting. But yes, it being dubbed and the acting in general is pretty shoddy in this now. Yeah, it doesn't help that. I think maybe if you watch the original, it would be better because everybody spoke in their native language. So anybody who spoke Chinese or Cantonese spoke that English, spoke English, French, whatever language. There was plenty of people with different languages. And then they dubbed it and just made it stereotypical horrible voices, which was like, crazy. So I think if you watched it in the original voices, maybe the acting wouldn't seem as bad. But it is pretty amped up throughout this movie. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Essentially. This is the same thing they did with the. The Dollars trilogy, Right. Like, everyone just speaks their own language and they just dub all of it in English, right? [00:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:13:49] Speaker B: But like a lot of these people were speak, I presume could speak English. Like, I know that I saw Danny and Nancy were both English speaking as well as, I assume most of the white cast. Maybe that's on me for racial biases. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:04] Speaker B: But like they still dubbed. Like, even the English felt like they dubbed over it. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I believe, because I think it originally was released in China and it was a huge success. And so they said, yeah, we will bring it over to America, but they dubbed it in China, so not all the original actors would have done the voices or any of that. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:14:30] Speaker C: It's kind of like when you watch. When you watch, like, an Asian film, and they have, like, Asian American or American Asians, people who are of American descent or English descent, but they're born or raised in China, and they. And Chinese is their. Or Mandarin or whatever is their native language, but they also. Right, so. And you hear them talk, and they have, like. They talk like they're John Wayne or something. And you're like, that's not how we talk. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:00] Speaker C: No, it's kind of. That going on there. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was interesting because, like, at the very beginning, he's with his uncle. They're speaking, I assume, Cantonese, and he's like, how's your English? Oh, it's okay. You're like, all right, well, let's speak that then. And then I'm like, oh, that was kind of a clever way to transition it and, like, show off his English speaking. And then you're, like, watching it for the first couple, like, is he speaking? [00:15:22] Speaker C: What is happening? [00:15:25] Speaker B: That definitely took me back a second. I was like, oh, yeah, okay. Why even have that conversation? Why not just speak Cantonese? I don't know. And there's one time, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I am not the smartest person when it comes to this kind of thing, but he's talking to. I apologize, the woman who buys the grocery store. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah, Elaine. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Elaine. And she's freaking out, and he's like, why don't you just speak Chinese? And I'm just sitting. Like, because there's no Chinese isn't a language that doesn't exist. It's Mandarin or Cantonese. Like, why. Like, Jackie Chan would know that. But I feel like they did that so American audiences would know what they're talking about. [00:16:01] Speaker A: That sounds exactly right. [00:16:03] Speaker C: Speaking of the lady that buys the store, it felt like she was kind of swooning over Jackie Chan, and I was waiting for there to be some sort of a love interest, and then I was, too. I was. Then it goes for Nancy, who kicked him in the balls and almost got him murdered. And he's like, yeah, don't worry about it. I feel sorry for you and your. Your son. So we're just gonna let this water under the bridge. Meanwhile, the store owner just gets bombarded with thugs blowing up her. Her store, literally tearing it to pieces. She gets nothing out of the deal. [00:16:43] Speaker B: I would. Yeah. I was surprised how much she sticks with Kiang, considering how much she gets the short end of the stick. But from King's perspective, I mean, if Francois Yip or if Nancy gave me any Time of day. I'd probably pay a lot of attention to her, too. I'm just gonna say. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Plus, you know, her. Her brother is pretty cool, right? So. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Oh, sure. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:11] Speaker C: Okay. So the gang in the beginning, I would say the first third of this movie is all about being bullied. [00:17:20] Speaker A: The Tony gang. Yeah, yeah. [00:17:21] Speaker C: The Tony gate. It's all about being bullied until they try to murder Jackie Chan in the alleyway by, you know, batting bottles at him. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:31] Speaker C: Which was kind of weird itself, but whatever. So I was like. I was kind of weird how? It's, like, silly, and then suddenly it's not. And then you get introduced to, like, the Mafia gang. Like, they're like the serious gang, and they're putting people into wood chippers. They're just shredding fools. Oh, yeah. Like, it just ramps up so fast, and suddenly you're like, whoa, this isn't silly anymore. There's people getting just shredded. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Yeah, well, we go from Jackie Chan in a onesie to a wood chipper real quick in this one. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I think they really needed to. They wanted to really amp up. Tony's gang is, like, bad. You know, they don't do good things, but this gang is bad, right? [00:18:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:17] Speaker A: They really needed to up the ante so that Tony would join the good side of the law. [00:18:22] Speaker B: All it took for Tony's gang to re see their ways is Jackie Chan telling them they need to do better. They're not good role models. Yeah, well, you're probably right. I don't feel like the gangsters would listen to that message quite as easily. [00:18:35] Speaker A: He had to also beat up, like, 40 of them all at once. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Sure. But still, they all turned a new leaf pretty quick. [00:18:42] Speaker C: Yeah. I kind of felt like that was Will's moment of. Of just, like, sincerity and honesty and wholesomeness. When Jackie Chan gives that little. That little monologue to the group about, you know, you could do better, you could be better kind of thing. And I was like, we all appreciate [00:18:58] Speaker A: we can be drinking tea together. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Is he serious? Yeah. [00:19:05] Speaker C: Yeah. And then, like, immediately they get the opportunity to join forces after that. And then it's, you know, where it's. It's no longer Godzilla versus King Kong. They're working together to be the. The Mecca Godzilla now, you know? So, you know, they. They always kind of do that. So that was okay with me. I think that this plot had a ton of holes in it. There were so many things that just did not make sense at all. And it was like that. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Why. [00:19:34] Speaker C: Why would you even do that? But it was. I still had a lot of fun watching this. Even with the bad acting, the horrible dubbed over dialogue. The dialogue that was really not good to begin with. But the wholesomeness of the film kind of was heartwarming. And the choreography and stunts were amazing back in the day too. I mean, this, this is amazing by today's standards. The choreography of the fight scenes was incredible. You know, really good stuff. I would say maybe not on par with stuff like John Wick, but pretty darn close like this. This could, you know, at least hold a candle to stuff like the Matrix. I was really impressed with this choreography. Also. Long takes, like you could watch like a full two minutes of action sequences before they change a camera angle. That. That's hard to do. To have that long stretch of a fight scene without screwing anything up, that's very impressive to me. That was incredible to watch. Then the stunts, Jumping off of buildings, jumping onto the hovercraft, going underneath the hovercraft. All, all the stuff of the hovercraft was pretty cool. Bouncing people off of it into the trees and stuff. Really top notch action sequences, choreography and stunts. That was kind of the shining star for me of this film. [00:21:03] Speaker A: I don't disagree with that. Dan, please tell us what you feel about those aspects of the movie. Was there anything you like? Dan? [00:21:16] Speaker B: I. I appreciate you so much, Will. I. I just. I don't know, maybe I'm just absolutely spoiled by nonsensical movies that are. Are more high octane than this. I can appreciate practical effects. I can appreciate the practicality of what they're doing. I appreciate Jackie Chan and whatnot doing his own stunts. They're just. It all felt more Looney Tunes than cool to me. Like the way that they're doing the fights, the way the things are happening, it felt. And I'm guessing this is Will's brand of comedy. So it probably works so much better for him than it does for me in a kung fu movie. Like, I'm picturing something like. I have not seen much kung fu. You nailed it on that one. Something like IP Man. Danny Frick. I forgot his name. Danny Young. Denny. Whatever hit the lead character is cool in that movie as he's kicking ass. And in this one, like, as. As wholesome as Jackie Chan is, you never really get a good sense of why he's doing a lot of what he's doing or what's going on or. I don't know. They took. Apparently they took something out of this movie, which is in the. The Hong Kong Release of this. He's a police officer in Hong Kong, which makes a lot more sense why he's doing some of the things that he's doing in this film. But when he's just a tourist in New York, it's kind of like, that's weird. And at one point he even tries to like go for a badge to be like, stop police. And I thought he was faking them out, but that's probably his instinct kicking in. He's seeing a woman being sexually assaulted and he's actually like reaching for his badge and his gun and realize like, oh, shoot, I don't actually, I'm not prepared for this. [00:22:49] Speaker C: I didn't know that. I thought that was him trying to psych the guy out and make him think he was going for a gun or something like that. [00:22:56] Speaker B: That's how they play it off. But I'm assuming that's what's actually the undertones in the, the quote unquote, the full version of this movie. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah. It also makes you realize why would the police ever let him drive that hovercraft at the end of the movie? [00:23:08] Speaker B: Yeah, because like that blew me away. [00:23:10] Speaker A: When they're just like enforcement that makes a little. It still doesn't make sense. [00:23:13] Speaker B: It still doesn't make sense, but like drive through the city onto the golf court to run this guy over, not even arrest him. And then the movie just ends. [00:23:20] Speaker A: And I'm like, after they duct tape it together, it's so funny. [00:23:24] Speaker C: So funny. 18 holes of duct tape. Then they run the guy over and it shreds his clothes off. Just his bare scraped up ass hanging out. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I like that. It did. Okay, granted it's on sand versus on concrete versus on grass, but it runs over Jackie Chan. No issues whatsoever. It runs over the car, sands every portion of that top of the car down to the bare metal runs over the guy and like clean shaves him and scratches him up and whatnot. Shares all of his clothes off. You're just like, this hovercraft's really, really all over the place. [00:23:59] Speaker A: You're not wrong, Dan. I do appreciate Jackie Chan's. And that's, that's what sets Jackie Chan apart, right, Is that he's willing to, to put in the comedic elements that make the movie seem like it's a rated R movie because you know, they're putting guys through wood chippers and he's bleeding to death in an alleyway, but he still overall makes it feel like a pretty heart, a light hearted movie. And the action is like Physically amazing to watch. And on top of that, they add comedic elements throughout it. And it's just, like, so interesting to me that. And I don't see that. And you're right. IP Man. IP man isn't like that, which is Donnie Yen, somebody in chat. Thank you very much. And I think he wanted to separate himself away from Bruce Lee originally because Bruce Lee was the coolest person in the room and the most deadly, and that's awesome. Jackie Chan wanted to be his own thing, and I think he found that and nails it not only in this movie, but it. In a lot of movies he does in his career. [00:25:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And I can appreciate that. I. I can. I just. [00:25:11] Speaker A: Whether it does it for you or not, that's a whole nother story. [00:25:13] Speaker B: That's just it. Like, even as we were watching this, I'm like, I can. I can almost guarantee Will thinks this is hilarious just based off of the other movies we've seen in the way you've talked about other scenes in movies, Right? But like, when he's upstairs talking to Elaine. Is it? And then he goes downstairs and somehow, silently, they have chained up every aspect of the supermarket to one vehicle without either one of them noticing. And he's just looking around like, I should go and get her out of the bathroom. And she's like, I don't want to talk to you. He's like, no, we should really talk right now. And then the entire superstore just comes crumbling down, and she's just sitting there on the toilet just like, I hate you. [00:25:55] Speaker C: I thought that scene was hilarious. It was incredibly stupid, but I was laughing at just the stupidity of. Reminded me of several different scenes from different movies. Them just being on the different floors, the water constantly pouring down on Jackie Chan. And at the end, the camera pans out, and if Jackie would just walk two steps to his right, he wouldn't be being rained on. But he stands there under the dripping water the whole time, you know, and then. And then, like, he falls in the chair and the chair falls off. Then he falls on the couch. And, you know, he's. He's thinking the couch is gonna fall off the ledge and stuff. There was a bunch of just little fun things in that whole sequence. Not to mention just seeing them pull the whole building down was. Was cool. None of it making any sense or being realistic whatsoever. But it was fun. It was fun. [00:26:47] Speaker A: And you have to. Again, this is like. I don't know. I. I watched this when it came out when I was like, 11 or 12 years old, right? And so young Will was just enamored. You know, I. And I wanted to be an action hero. I would play with my friends, and we were, you know, the good cops who were taking down the gangs. And watching Jackie Chan take the physicality to, like, the next level, like, compared to things like, you know, the 80s movies like Blood sport and things like that, it's like a whole nother level of. Of physical prowess. And I. I couldn't get enough of that. I just couldn't. I couldn't. And. And so it remains very near and dear to my heart. Again, not saying it's the best movie I've ever seen, and it's not even the best Jackie Chan movie I've ever seen. I think the stunt work and martial arts, well, maybe not the stunt work as much, but the martial art, maybe both, actually took a hit because this was filmed in Canada, where there's much stricter laws and you can't just do anything you want. And he had to train a lot of the stuntmen. And in the fights, it took like, 22 days for him to choreograph the warehouse scene with the gang fight. And because he had to teach everybody how to do it, how to fight Hong Kong style, because it's very different than anything in Hollywood or, you know, being filmed in North America. So I think he did a great job. And he actually went and bought everything for that warehouse to choreograph with. And I think you can see the detail in how he's using the fridges, how he's moving the pieces and. And all the close calls and just rolling over things. It's just, like, so intricate that you just want to watch it again and again. You're like, it's so fast, but it's all one take. But it's so. You know, I just. I just. I think it's so rewatchable for that. For that reason. [00:28:50] Speaker C: And it's. It's smooth, too. A lot of times you'll see the choreographing, and if you watch the other guy, the other guy is telegraphing his punches, is waiting for his cue to swing or dodge or whatever. And in this, everything is just fast smooth. No one's waiting for anything. It's happening. It looks real, like they're really going for him. And he really moves the refrigerator door just in time. There was, you know, the scenery dives into the sunroof of the car, and the motorcycle misses running over his crotch by, like, inches. And. And it wasn't like that motorcyclist was like stalling and waiting. They were full throttle going, like, if he screwed that up, Jackie Chan's gonna be wearing more than a cast. Like it was. [00:29:39] Speaker A: It's crazy. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Like there was. So that's why I really liked it because those fight sequences, long takes, real smooth. Didn't look stupid, didn't look fake. Looked like they were really going after it. So I, I appreciate the action in this film. And then there's Dan. [00:29:55] Speaker B: No, I, I'm trying. Sorry. I was trying to think of two different things because, like, you were like, oh, well, there, there's so much stricter in Canada. You can't just get away with anything. I'm like, they drove a hovercraft around the city. Like they can get away with. [00:30:06] Speaker A: I just mean, I just mean, like, as far as, like, what. Because this is a, this is a well known thing as well. Jackie Chan has his own stunt crew, he's got his own stunt school. He train, trains a bunch of people for stunt work, but they can't get insured, especially not in Hollywood. He has to pay out of pocket for any hospital bills and things like that. It, like, is super expensive to. If people get hurt, you know, he has to take care of them. But in China, they don't have the same regulations or they didn't. They might be changing now, of course, but they don't have the same regulations in place. And so people could do way wilder things and attempt way wilder things than you see in this movie even. And it does make, I think, for better action sequences in other Jackie Chan movies. Not to say that I don't love these ones because it was again, the first time I saw it. But I think there are better action sequences and stunts in some of his other pictures. [00:31:03] Speaker B: And that's the other point that I was going to touch on is you make a good point where not only your age, but also the fact that this is maybe like your first introduction to it makes a huge difference because it will open your eyes to a whole potential genre, a whole different way of looking at things. One of the movie franchises that we have not touched on yet, and I'm terrified if we ever do, is the Clerks franchise. I know that Brian has not seen it, and quite frankly, I have no idea if it's going to hold up from 1994 to 2026 or 2027, whenever we end up getting around to it. It's a franchise that is near and dear to my heart. But again, it's not perfect. It's not even close. But I watched it At a time when it. It hit me in a really special way. And it's not even one that I go back to all that often, but it still holds a very. It lives in my heart. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it lives in your mind. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Exactly. And it's. [00:31:50] Speaker A: It. [00:31:51] Speaker B: It will be. I don't want to impact your scores. I want you guys to be honest if we ever do get to that. But, like, it'll be hard to sit through that if you guys are both just like, wow, did you see this part? So dumb. And I'll just be like, yeah, but I still love it. [00:32:02] Speaker C: That's the beauty. [00:32:03] Speaker A: That's the beauty of Rumble in the Bronx. I know it's dumb. It's obvious, but I still love what I love about it because of when I experienced it. Right? [00:32:12] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. For sure. [00:32:14] Speaker A: And there was. I wanted to pick a different martial arts movie called Ong Back, but it is technically part of a trilogy because they made a second and third one. I watched the second one. It was so bad, I never even watched the third one. So I was like, well, I'm not gonna. I want to pick it for this, but because it's a franchise, I can't. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Oh, but we could technically do it at some point. [00:32:37] Speaker A: First one's so good. We could technically do it. And I'll watch. I'll suffer through all three if I get to watch the first one with you all, because it is so good. So good. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Fair. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Dan will hate it. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Is Ong Bach? Is that the comedy? No. [00:32:55] Speaker A: I mean, no, not really. Tony Jaw. It's like Thai kickboxing. [00:33:01] Speaker B: What was the, like, ridiculous one with, like, the nunchuck squirrel? [00:33:04] Speaker A: Oh, that's [00:33:07] Speaker C: Nunchuck Squirrel. [00:33:09] Speaker A: Is that Kung Fu Hustle or something? [00:33:11] Speaker B: I don't know. No, I thought the name would pop if I heard it. Kung Pao, Kung Pow. [00:33:16] Speaker A: There we go. [00:33:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:33:16] Speaker A: I knew it was one of those. Anyway. It's not. [00:33:18] Speaker C: I thought that was a chicken. [00:33:21] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe it is. I'm not 100. Sure. I never saw it. So I saw the ad and was like, I'm good. [00:33:26] Speaker A: I'm good. Yeah, yeah. No, it's not like that. But although Tony Jaw, again, was inspired. He's younger, so he was inspired by Jackie Chan and then all the others. So he does infuse some humor into his stuff as well. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:39] Speaker C: I enjoyed the hovercraft scenes a lot. Just them running 100 craft up and down the street, bouncing it off of cars. Jackie Chan with that ridiculous stupid sword, and the Lamborghini that he drives and slices it open. [00:33:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's super fun. [00:33:52] Speaker C: The duct tape. Yeah, it's like a giant can opener. Then he used the duct tape to patch it back up, which was just ridiculous and. And fun. Yeah, I thought. I thought it was. That was. That's why I got in the background here, because I enjoy the hovercraft scenes. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it was interesting to. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Sorry, go ahead. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yeah, please, please. [00:34:12] Speaker B: It was interesting to see because it was one of those things where, like, I feel like hovercrafts were such a cool thing in, like, the 80s and 90s. They were in, like, cartoons, like, masks, GI Joe, transformers. And it was like, this is awesome. And I saw it in the movie. I'm like, I forgot those existed. Like, I haven't seen or heard of one in so long. And I'm like, do they still exist? Or was it one of those things that, like, the technology just outgrew it so quickly? I have no idea. But it was just one of those, like. Okay, it is. It is pretty fun to see. And to see that it's just like a ferry, essentially, for, like, tourists. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:34:44] Speaker C: Replaced it with those hydroplaning boats that come up on the fins and skate across the top of the water now. But, you know, those don't go on land, so I don't know. I don't know how hovercrafts do. Yeah, maybe he's a drone now or something. Again. [00:34:59] Speaker A: It was the first time I ever saw an action sequence with a hovercraft. First and only time, mind you. So I thought it was pretty. Pretty bold and pretty fun in that. In that aspect. We did mention that Jackie Chan broke his ankle while on that and had to work for the rest of the movie. I saw an interview with him, I think was with Conan, and he's like, yeah, we had to film me running, but I couldn't run on this ankle. So I would just put my knee on the wheelchair and just fake it up on the camera like this. Like, I was running. He's just like, you know what? They're doing whatever he can to make this movie still go right with the injury and everything. So I. I just. [00:35:36] Speaker C: Those are. Those are some of the best stories in cinema. You hear about movies like Ghostbusters that almost didn't make it, and they were just doing anything they could to get the film out. And it turns into a wonderful film because. And this is my theory, I guess, is because somebody loves making that movie. It's their passion project. This was Jackie Chan's thing that he really wanted to do. He was going to make it happen no matter what. And the, the heart and soul that goes into those type of movies ends up becoming something beloved. Even if it's maybe not the most top tier quality film, it still holds a place in somebody's heart for sure. In wills. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it was interesting seeing the hovercraft scene where Jackie Chan is like kind of going from the sailboat onto the bridge and then jumps onto it where he, where he breaks his ankle. Because watching that in the movie, it looked like a really dramatic jump. And I'm like, that looked like it was like four feet, like you jumped across buildings earlier. And you're like, this is pretty small for that. And you see after the fact, like, oh, he broke his ankle doing it. Like, oh, that's why he landed like, okay, that makes way more sense. I actually think now that my cards are all on the table, the, the end credits behind the scenes, like the outtakes. Easily my favorite part of the movie that was like, oh, I could watch a lot more of this. Like, I watched a lot more of them making this movie than I want to watch them the movie. [00:37:01] Speaker C: Oh, that woman who face planted off the motorcycle. Oh, that was brutal. [00:37:06] Speaker A: Yeah, there was like three or four people who broke legs and, and bones throughout the movie. Like, you can see they've cart away two or three people into the ambulance. But the idea of Jackie Chan doing the outtakes, which he does with a lot of his movies, came from when he was in the Cannonball Run, which was one of his attempts to break out into the Hollywood pictures. He had a small role in that and the second one, but the director. What was his name? Can't remember here. I can't remember his name. He was a stuntman as well. And in, in his movies, he would put an outtake in the, at the end of his credits because he was filming all these stunts and all these cool things. He had all this extra footage. He wanted to make sure people could see it, so he'd throw it at the end. And so Jackie's hand, when he saw the Cannonball Run, he saw that and he's like, boom, I'm gonna, I'm gonna start doing that. I have all this extra footage. I think it's really cool. And so he's, he's been doing that for many, many years since like in, from the early 80s. So I thought that was a really cool thing that he picked up from a fellow stuntman director that he, you know, worked under and, and how that, you know, how that grows organically and you grab that creativity from others and make it your own. [00:38:20] Speaker B: I mean, it makes sense. It was, as I said, like, my favorite part of the film. I'm not saying that to try and be rude or anything, but, like, seeing the behind the scenes of how it all worked, everything was really cool. And, like, the scene Brian was talking about with where he jumps into the moonroof of the car, the sunroof of the car, and the bike goes over top of him and he gets out and he's, like, so excited that he didn't get hurt. He's, like, running up, like, hugging the driver of the motorcycle, like, ah, we did it. [00:38:42] Speaker C: Thank you so much. [00:38:44] Speaker B: Like, that was. That was fun. I enjoyed that part of it. And, like, again, seeing the. The. The. The shoe boot that went over his cast. [00:38:52] Speaker A: Right. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Could still look like he's wearing shoes and whatnot. I was like, that's clever. [00:38:57] Speaker C: I like that it retroactively makes you enjoy the movie a little bit more. [00:39:01] Speaker A: It. [00:39:02] Speaker C: Just to know what they went through to film, it becomes impressive and you just appreciate it more seeing how hard they worked for it. [00:39:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I think there's also something. There's also something to be said of, like, you see a couple of the outtakes where somebody actually connects one of their hits, and they're like, immediately like, stop everything. Make sure everybody's okay. You see that camaraderie in making this and, like, how invested and how, like, kind and caring everybody actually is. It's just, like, such an interesting switch from what you see in the movie itself, what they're presenting and how it actually is coming together. It's super fun. And, I mean, I. I love that stuff too. Coming from theater and producing my own shows, I get to experience all that. And it's. It is super fun to be able to share some of those bits with your audience. [00:39:52] Speaker C: For sure. [00:39:54] Speaker A: I know you guys are slightly older than me, but I think it still applies. This movie came out in 95 in Hong Kong and 96 in North America. Jackie Chan was 41 years old when he filmed this movie. Wow. I am now 41 years old, and I cannot, nor will I ever be able to ever move like he moved at that age. And it makes me so jealous. [00:40:20] Speaker B: I could move like that at any age. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Yeah, he doesn't. [00:40:24] Speaker B: He didn't. [00:40:24] Speaker A: He doesn't look that. He does look maybe older than he should be in the movie, especially, you know, when he's hooking up with Nancy. But he moves like a gazelle. It is, yeah. Impressive. It is impressive. [00:40:37] Speaker C: When he's doing. Working that post. I don't know what you call that kung fu post that they practice on. [00:40:42] Speaker A: The dummy post or whatever. [00:40:43] Speaker C: Yeah. When he's doing that and they're building up the music as he goes faster and faster and faster. That was impressive all on its own. And then to find out that he's in his fourth 40s doing that. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Wow. [00:40:53] Speaker B: Honestly, at any age, like, the speed he was going at was. Was crazy. And that's like. It's a training dummy. He's probably used that thing hundreds, if not thousands. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Yeah, 100. [00:41:02] Speaker B: But it's still one of those things. Like, you can watch that. Anybody do that? Like a speed bag or something like that. Like, when you watch somebody who's good at what they do, it's mesmerizing. And Jackie Chan is very good at what he does. [00:41:13] Speaker A: Very good. [00:41:14] Speaker C: Yep, Yep. Well said. [00:41:16] Speaker B: I will say, as much as some of the comedy did not work for me in this movie, there was a couple scenes with Danny specifically that I did kind of chuckle out loud at. I don't know if I was supposed to or not, but when he's trying to, like, sell his sister to. Yeah, Jackie Chan, he's like, oh, you'd like her. She's very pretty. Model. Yeah, you like her? Very pretty. I'm like. [00:41:37] Speaker A: And then when you're out later, when she comes out later, she's crying. She's like, see, she's very pretty. Well, not right now. [00:41:43] Speaker B: Right now. That was one of two moments that I legit laughed out loud. [00:41:49] Speaker A: I always burst out laughing is when they come back and get the diamonds for the. For the thugs. And then Jackie gets the gun on him and he, like, hits the guy with the gun. He's like, yeah. And then Danny throws him a helmet, hits him. [00:42:01] Speaker C: He's like, oh. [00:42:03] Speaker A: And then he gets the freaking pipe [00:42:05] Speaker B: wrench from Danny from God knows where from where. [00:42:10] Speaker A: It's just so funny, though, because nobody's going to take a pipe wrench hit. [00:42:15] Speaker B: And it. [00:42:16] Speaker A: That guy knows it, so he's like. [00:42:18] Speaker B: Instantly backs down. [00:42:20] Speaker A: It's just such a. That's like the. That's absurd humor. And it. It's not always at that level in this movie. But that for some reason was just so funny to me. [00:42:30] Speaker B: And I think maybe that's why it worked for me, because it was so absurdist. Whereas everything else is kind of like towing the line of like, am I supposed to be believing this or am I supposed to know that this is really dumb right now? Whereas that was like, oh, no, this is really dumb right now. I. I did appreciate that moment for sure. That was the other one I was gonna bring up. [00:42:49] Speaker C: I certainly didn't believe those guys when they're like, who are you? And he's like, oh, we're the FBI. And then they just go about their business. No card, no badge, nothing. We're the FBI. And he's like, yeah, okay, I totally believe you. Just. [00:42:59] Speaker B: But then he calls them, yeah, no, I haven't in at the FBI. It'll be okay. I'm like, oh, he's actually dumb. And if he's supposed to be a police officer, yeah, we would know better, but. Okay. [00:43:11] Speaker A: You know, that's what they call a plot device. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Now I do have a question about something that I don't fully understand. When you first meet the. The gang members, I guess, that are selling the diamonds to the gangsters, right? That seems to be going, okay. And then it cuts to Jackie Chan, and all of a sudden, the. The car is whipping around the corner and gets into a car accident. And then you see all are hurt. Did the deal go south or did the car accident hurt those guys? [00:43:48] Speaker A: I think the deal went south. But again, it's super ambiguous. [00:43:54] Speaker B: Yeah. The rest of the movie, we're dealing with this, like, small, little, hometown, like, oh, bullying thing. And then all of a sudden, it's like, hard left into like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Massive gangsters and diamond heist. And what? I'm just like, wait, what happened? [00:44:08] Speaker C: Why is it in these mobster drug deal movies, why is it they always have to move all of the product in one big bunch to this new salesperson? They're like, these are the only person people that can handle this much weight. And they're going to move all. Why don't just go, hey, I got a lot of diamonds. Let's start out with like, 10 of them. See how that goes. If business goes well, we'll sell you another 10 and we'll just. Nobody has to put up a lot of money or a lot of diamonds at once. I mean, you don't have a movie, but. [00:44:43] Speaker B: And you're less likely to kill me because you want the next 10 diamonds. [00:44:46] Speaker C: Yes, exactly right? Why not? Why would you not do that? Do it in installments, man. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Sum that up with. I could sum that up in one word. Greed. Okay? Nobody. Nobody's got time for that. You want to go hit your next score, man. You want to dump this hot diamonds, because then you can't get caught with it. You want to take your money and run until your next heist. That's it. [00:45:08] Speaker B: That's all well and even quantity. Why don't they just let the deal go through? Like, nobody dies, nobody alerts the cops, nobody goes to jail. It's just like, I want those diamonds. This is a fair price. Here's the money and we all live happily ever after. And the rest of the movie doesn't happen. But of course you have to try and get the double dip and there's [00:45:29] Speaker C: opportunity for repeat business. But if you murder the other guy, that's the last deal you're gonna do. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Who knows? [00:45:40] Speaker B: Who knows? If you like what we do and you want to help support us, consider joining our Patreon. There's a link down below. You shout out to our producers as well as our executive producers, Real Bubba, Hotep and Dino, and of course, our head writers, Elder JM990 and Ms. Hillary. Thank you all so much for your support. [00:45:59] Speaker C: All right, I gave this movie A64. There were a lot of things wrong with it, a lot of things that I didn't like, but there were some really cool things that I did enjoy. A lot of work went into this film. A lot of heart and soul and things that made it fun for me. The fun factor was way high on this. The effects and the direction got some high points too. Acting, plot, dialogue, sound, effects, lots of those things. Lots of technical issues with this that brought it down. But overall it was a decent enough film. Probably not something I'm going to return to. I think there's lots of other martial arts movies I would rather see. My time is limited. So a 64 score isn't going to be a movie I'm ever probably going to return to, but nonetheless did have some real highlights that if you were a fan of martial arts films or a Jackie Chan film. Jackie Chan fan, then you should definitely check this one out. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Let's go, Daniel. The manual. [00:47:00] Speaker B: I thought you my side, Brian. [00:47:05] Speaker A: I know there's issues. I know there's issues. [00:47:08] Speaker C: I know. Raking over the coals. Dave. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Will, I love you so much and I appreciate you. Thank you so much for doing the show with me. Unlike Brian, the fun fact for this one did not carry it for me. I think if I'm being honest with myself and I'm actually ranking this movie the way that I feel like I should and I'm not trying to appease Will or appease Brian and Will based off of what they're going to score it as. I have to say, the acting in this is really atrociously bad. Just. Just from almost everybody. It's just painful to sit through. The fact that they dubbed it and then apparently re dubbed it didn't really help in that scenario. The sound quality in this isn't great, but it's just not a huge stepping point. The cinematography, I think it will give some decent points to the hovercraft scene was a lot of fun. The actual coordination in the stunts and whatnot and the fact they were all practically done, really cool. I will give props that. And if I ever go back to this one, I am going to pay a lot more attention to the fact of how long the scenes are going for. That was something I wasn't paying attention to. So if they're doing these highly choreographed scenes and they are maybe not one taking them, but, you know, stretching them out as opposed to what we see now with movies like Taken and John Wick, where it's cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, to try and make it look cool, that would increase that. But I. I wasn't paying attention to that. Unfortunately in this one, the plot, nonsensical, just. Just silly from the beginning end. And one of the things that really just didn't hurt me with this one is the. The humor in it, for the most part, didn't land with me. But even more than that, the, the. The kung fu of it, which should have been super cool, also just felt cartoony and kind of Looney Tunes ish. Like half the time I didn't really understand what I was watching or what I'm supposed to be feeling these times. Like, is Jackie Chan a complete badass or is he kind of a dork who's getting away with some of this stuff? I'm not 100 sure where you're supposed to land on that one. I didn't enjoy this movie in any capacity. I can appreciate the film, the filmography that went into it, but for me, this is an incredibly low score. This one's going to be a 38 for me. Whoa. I just did not enjoy. [00:49:14] Speaker C: Wow. [00:49:16] Speaker A: Totally fine. Totally fine. [00:49:18] Speaker C: Oh, wow. That score went underneath the hovercraft. [00:49:24] Speaker B: I was sitting there, I'm like, is this. No, no, no. [00:49:33] Speaker A: This is how it goes when you bring your heart and soul to a group of people who just cannot accept greatness. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I. I knew this was going to be hit and miss with people. I mean, it's not everybody's genre. It's not everybody's comedic style. It's you know, it's not for everybody but in my mind it was the breakout for Jackie Chan into Hollywood. It was the breakout for kung fu movies to see the world stage as a whole before Jackie Chan and, and you know, don't get me wrong, Bruce Lee is an amazing talent. Jet Li is an amazing talent. Martial arts wise they are far and above Jackie Chan. But Jackie Chan has this, this entertainer element that just carries through so much more than those other great martial artists that you know, he's stood the test of time after this. He, he, he tried four different films Hollywood's way, you know, trying to break into the Hollywood scene. And then eventually he said I'm gonna do it myself. And he did on the first try. And it was the lar. One of the largest openings in China at the time and it was the opening box office smash hit when it opened in North America. Not that it made a lot of money overall but you know, being the top opening movie, nothing, nothing to shake a, a finger at. So it's just, it's just one of those things that I've talked about before. You know, it's one of these passion projects and when you can see that passion it, I really gravitate towards that. Not to mention I just love, I've always been into the physicality of people and what they can accomplish with their training and determination is just like crazy to me. And I will always be a fan of martial arts movies specifically for that. Especially like Asian because you can see the hard work and the blood. You can literally see the blood, sweat and tears that go into making these movies. Not for everyone. I understand that. Is it the best movie? No. My ranking is 72 out of 100. It's not the best picture. We ragged on the acting, we ragged on the dubbing. We've ragged on. We didn't even rag on the sound that much. But you can see that the band playing in the nightclub isn't playing the music that your ears are hearing like it's not even close. But it was so amazing for 11 year old will that I, I will always love this movie. I will watch this movie at least once a year, probably till my dying days, which will probably be well before Jackie Chan dies, which I'm happy, I'm happy about that because I can keep watching his movies. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Nicely said. And I'm so sorry. [00:52:25] Speaker A: You don't have to be sorry. I knew, I knew, I knew you weren't a huge martial arts movie guy and I knew that this one is like different because it's Jackie Chan. Very, very, very, very rarely plays I'm the baddest ass in the room. He's much more of a. I'm a humble guy, and I get myself into crazy situations, and I have to get my way out of them in creative ways. [00:52:50] Speaker C: Yeah. He played a boy scout, for sure, in this, and. [00:52:53] Speaker A: And I. And I just gravitate towards that. I prefer that over. I'm the baddest ass in the room because I'll never be the baddest ass in the room, but I'd love to be the guy who creatively makes his way out of it. [00:53:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:04] Speaker B: I think I would have been okay with him being the humble, bumbling guy when he's talking to Nancy or when he's talking to Elaine or when he's working in the grocery store, you know, like, looking in the mirror and making muscly arms at himself. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Squeezing. [00:53:23] Speaker B: But then, like, push comes to shove and it's time to go down. And he's like, no, I'm. I. I know what I am. Like, I. I get this. I don't know. [00:53:30] Speaker A: She does at the warehouse, somewhat. Like, he does take on the whole gang just in his own weird action way. [00:53:37] Speaker C: Right. [00:53:38] Speaker B: He. I mean, let's not get it twisted. Like, he's incredible, like, what he's doing. Like, you mentioned. Like, you can never move like him. I'll never move a tenth of what he does. [00:53:46] Speaker A: Right. [00:53:47] Speaker B: And, like, there are some really cool scenes that's, like, when he traps the guy's arms with his jacket and is just, like, elbowing him from behind. Like, that's really cool. Yeah, it's a little thing. Like, that's not even, like, a big bombastic moment, but it's just like this. Like. Cool. [00:54:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:01] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:02] Speaker C: I think it's awesome that we have such a wide spread of scores on this one. I kind of hate it when we all come in within five points of each other. And usually in franchises, we're going to be pretty similar on a lot of them, especially the first movie, because you don't make a franchise off of a bad film. So we're. We're gonna come in high on the opening of a franchise film. And so I'm stoked that we have the Patreon picks and now March Madness so that we can throw out movies like this where we're going to have a wide response to it. So I'm glad Dan's number is way low, and I'm glad that Will's number was higher than mine, because I would hate if 64 was the highest one for this film. [00:54:43] Speaker A: When I brought it to the table, [00:54:45] Speaker B: yeah, I was a little bit nervous. Like, I was kind of making the poster in the background while you. While Will was talking, I was like, Will's mentioned that he knows this isn't the greatest movie ever. He said this quite a bit. Is Brian gonna be the high one on this? Like, I'd already made you the white number, and I had Will as the green, but I was just kind of sitting there like, 64's not possible. And with that, we have Rumble in the Bronx coming in with a score of 38. 64, 72, putting it at the bottom of the Patreon pick list at 58. I cannot apologize enough. Well, and honestly, I am terrified for next week because I am leaning really hard towards one movie choice, and it's. It's gonna be polarizing as well. I feel like I owe that to you guys after this one to give you a chance to kind of hit back at something that I really love. [00:55:36] Speaker A: So, again, Dan, again, no, no. No harm, no foul, man. It's not your type of movie. And I knew that going in. I expected you were going to have the lowest score. Am I thrilled that it's at the bottom of this list? No, because, you know, I love the movie, but. [00:55:54] Speaker C: And. [00:55:54] Speaker A: And I would much rather I. I scored Romeo and Juliet higher than I scored Rumble in the Bronx, but I will watch Rumble in the Bronx 100 times before I ever watch Romeo and Juliet again. Like, it just is what it is. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Sorry to interrupt you there really quickly. Just because there's a time limit here. There is a new giveaway in chat. Somebody has just gifted a R rating spider meme T shirt to the chat. Anybody who wants to join in, make sure you hit join to win. Not an exclamation mark. Join, just join. Get yourself in there. I think you might have to be in my chat. I don't know 100% how that's going to work. So if you are watching from Brian's, maybe you can hit join. But just to be safe, come on over to my channel for a second hit join and then go back to Brian's channel. That's totally fine. I don't know 100% how it's going to work there. Most likely that came from Omega Man. Appreciate you. It does say Anonymous. I'm not 100 on that one, but that's. He's usually the one giving out gifts and T shirts. Thank you so much. I truly appreciate that. And that is the design of the three of us kind of pointing at each other like the spider man meme that a friend of mine drew for us. I have the shirt. I really like it. One of you is gonna have it after this. It is me. Omega man. Omega man, you're the goddamn best. Thank you so much, friend. [00:57:04] Speaker A: Thank you, Omega man. [00:57:05] Speaker B: D Marin for the subscribe thank you so much. For 23 months at tier one. They've been scrapped for 25 months. Total over two years of Dan. That's ridiculous. He's also down. [00:57:18] Speaker A: I can only handle Dan once a week. I don't know what you guys are doing. That's crazy. [00:57:21] Speaker B: It's crazy. All right. Sorry. I didn't want to get that out because it is like 180 seconds, and I didn't want that to go away before I acknowledged it. But. Sorry, will. I didn't want to cut you off. [00:57:31] Speaker A: No, no. [00:57:31] Speaker B: It's close to an end point of there as possible. [00:57:33] Speaker A: No, that worked fine. That worked perfectly. I just have to tank your next. No, I'm not gonna tank anything. So. [00:57:41] Speaker C: It's my first white score. [00:57:43] Speaker A: Atta boy. [00:57:44] Speaker C: I know. Finally got one on the board there. [00:57:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:57:48] Speaker C: First time I was in the middle. [00:57:50] Speaker B: Look at you. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Good job. [00:57:52] Speaker C: No longer extremist. [00:57:55] Speaker B: I don't think it's case sensitive. Okay. So I had a couple of movies that I could do for next week, Ones that I truly love. I didn't pick anything that I wouldn't. That. That doesn't mean something to me. On some level, I am down to, I think, 2. After this conversation. [00:58:12] Speaker C: If you want. I've settled on one. If you want me to go and you can spend another week thinking about [00:58:18] Speaker A: it, agonizing on it. [00:58:20] Speaker B: It's fine. I don't mind. I mean, if you. [00:58:24] Speaker C: I. I'm gonna go with primer because neither of you have seen it, and I don't see another opportunity to make you guys watch it. So I'm just gonna go with primer. I haven't seen it in a while, and so it's. It's something I'm gonna watch. We can either do that this coming week, or if Dan ever can whittle it down to just one movie, Then we can watch whatever it is he has in store for us. What. What are your two choices? [00:58:46] Speaker B: Okay. Ah, first, d. Marin, congratulations on the t shirt. That's awesome. Make sure you hit the link to go and actually claim it. What are my two choices? I've got it down. Especially you know what? Because you nailed primer and you're like, that's the movie that neither of those have ever seen. I'm pretty sure you mentioned the beginning. You'd only seen half of Rumble of the Bronx. I'd never seen it. I'm gonna go with the one movie that I know neither of you have seen because I've brought it up a bunch and you always look at me blankly. We're gonna do Sing street for my movie. When it gets to there. This is going to be Brian's absolute kryptonite because it is a child led movie and it's a musical yourself. I love this one. It's so good. [00:59:28] Speaker C: Oh man. Hey, you know I got you. I got you on this one. Will, I'm gonna take the out of this. [00:59:34] Speaker B: Oh, I'm, I'm certain you will. And it won't even be revenge. It will just be. I just legitimately chose something that I don't. I, I think you'll enjoy. No, I don't think it'll be a painful sit through for you. But I'm not expecting you to be like, wow, Dan, you opened my eyes. I really like child acting and musicals now. All right, so that's our rating of Rumble in the Bronx. Again. This is a March movie madness picture. This is different than what we normally do, but it was fun to see something that is not part of a franchise. Something we don't have to review the next 2, 3, 4, 5 parts of. Just a one off. Really cool to see. Can't wait to do primer next week with Brian. So that'll be a lot of fun. If you enjoyed this video, make sure you hit like and subscribe so that we see you in the next one. [01:00:22] Speaker A: Sam.