Ep 111 - Jumanji (1995)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: In a time when the only way to entertain yourself was by playing games with bored writing, the name Jumanji comes around to take your mind off the troubles in your life by making your life extraordinarily worse by the minute. Don't hate the game, hate the player. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Completely overrated. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to R rating. The show where I get together with two of my friends, we take a movie franchise, break it down by movies, give them a score and throw them back up on the board to see where they land compared to the other movie franchises. This week we're talking about 1995's Jumanji. And I'm joined as always by Brian and Will. Brian, how you doing this week? [00:00:44] Speaker C: I'm good, Dan. Had a. Had a nice week. Wife's out of town, so I've just been hanging out with the boys, having a good time, watching lots of good movies and TV shows that just started. Checked out that nocturn on Apple. That's a pretty good one. If you like Hannibal Lecter style TV shows, it's a. It's a pretty good watch. There's two episodes out at the time of this recording. Will, what you been doing? [00:01:05] Speaker A: Not much. Just busy setting up for my stream that's happening tomorrow. But, you know, whatever. I'm just here to talk about Jumanji. [00:01:14] Speaker B: No, no, no, don't. Oh, whatever that you're doing good things tomorrow. What do you got going on? [00:01:18] Speaker A: Tomorrow is the beginning of the end of my sanity as I will be doing a 24 hour live stream to raise money for Extra Life, which is a charity that supports the children's miracle hospitals. And this is my fourth year doing this 24 hour stream every year. We've been so lucky to have raised a little bit more money each year. This year I'm aiming for the moon and hopefully we land amongst the stars. [00:01:50] Speaker C: What are some of the more exciting redemptions you have planned for, you know, your, your benchmarks? Anything good? [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:56] Speaker C: What's this one that's got you scared? [00:01:59] Speaker A: Well, you know, I was thinking about, I was like, you know what? My hair is getting pretty. Pretty long, pretty unruly. Yeah. Would be nice. And then I remembered there's 12 different horrible haircut options that I have to give myself. Like a mohawk or a reverse mullet where I just keep the front. You know, there's like the old fashioned bowl cut where you just put a bowl on your head and just. Yeah, yeah, [00:02:27] Speaker B: yeah. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Like a fryer tuck where you just cut the middle out and let the other part hang. There's this terrible. It's terrible. And I already regret even writing it down. So [00:02:38] Speaker B: I feel like you could do the mohawk first and then go into other things afterwards, like use the hair while you have it and then, like, choose the haircuts that, like, get less and less and less hair until you get yourself down to, like, being bald. [00:02:50] Speaker A: This sounds like it's coming from a guy who doesn't have that option, Dan. [00:02:53] Speaker B: That's correct. What's that? Wear hats 24 7. Sounds good. [00:03:00] Speaker A: No, I'm, I'm super excited about it, but I always get just nervous about it because, you know, I, I, I plan all these things, but you never know how they're going to come across and how the audience will react. But I've got some wonderful, kind and caring people that come and support me and the charity. So it will be a good time, no matter what happens. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Very nice. Very nice. All right. Well, as always, we are here to talk about Jumanji. This is the first one of the Jumanji series. I have to ask, Brian, is this your first time seeing Jumanji? [00:03:31] Speaker C: This is my second and a half time watching it because I tried to watch it one other time a couple years ago and couldn't make it all the way through because didn't really like the second viewing. But I did make it all the way through this time so that we could rate this properly, that [00:03:48] Speaker A: it [00:03:48] Speaker C: kind of gives away my stance on the movie. [00:03:51] Speaker B: We appreciate your time. What about you? Well, I have to assume you've seen this. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I've probably seen this half a dozen times over my life. Yeah, it was pretty, pretty big in 95 when it came out, you know, and I think it was targeted towards our age group at the time, so, yeah, it was, it was pretty popular. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd agree with that. I, I remember seeing this one, I don't know, half a dozen times. Sounds about right. Over the last 25, 35 years, however long it's been since 1995. 31. So, yeah, this is one that's not been on, like, steady rotation, but I've definitely seen it a couple times in my childhood, and now I've been able to share it with my kids. Unfortunately, I started watching this with my youngest daughter on the weekend and she got pretty sick and had to tap out, unfortunately. So I didn't get to finish it with her. But she was really enjoying it. So I'm probably gonna watch it one and a half times this week. So I have to finish it off with her when she's feeling better. [00:04:46] Speaker C: I. I've got a question for you guys about this movie. If I were to set down the Jumanji game board in front of you gentlemen and say, I promise none of us will die playing this, would you play Jumanji with me? For reals? Would you want that adventure happening, knowing how it ends when you finally finish the game? Would you want to. Would you do that? Or would you just be like, heck, no, I don't want running through my living room. [00:05:17] Speaker B: No offense. I would want somebody of a higher power than you promising me that me and nobody else is gonna die, because I'm not entirely sure you can promise that. [00:05:28] Speaker C: Okay, well, if. If. If, you know, if Mattel wrote on the side of the box that you would not die from playing this game, or at least once the game was completed, you'd come back to life, would you give this one a spin? To have this kind of adventure? Does that sound fun to you? Or does it sound scary and creepy and you want to avoid that kind of carnage? [00:05:52] Speaker B: I feel like the underlying trauma you're going to be living with for the rest of your life is probably not worth the half an hour of fun you're going to get from rolling down because, like, the game itself is painfully basic, [00:06:07] Speaker C: man. It's terrible. Yeah. [00:06:09] Speaker B: So in that [00:06:10] Speaker C: candy land, it's terrible. [00:06:12] Speaker B: It's not really fun other than trying to not die. And if you just told me I can't, then, like, yeah, whatever. [00:06:18] Speaker C: Oh, I see. Dan needs the thrill of the hunt there, huh? [00:06:22] Speaker B: Or a game that's worth playing, one or the other. [00:06:24] Speaker C: I see. I see. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Well, you will. [00:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's actually Milton Bradley that brought this game out, but that's fine. No, no worries. I know you don't do the research, [00:06:36] Speaker B: calling them out, [00:06:38] Speaker C: just dinging me. Hey, that's your quadrant, buddy. That's your job. [00:06:43] Speaker B: I [00:06:43] Speaker C: only do extra credit research on movies I really like, and this one ain't making that cut. [00:06:49] Speaker A: No, no, no. In all honesty, that I was actually gonna bring this up because in the movie, nobody dies that's playing the game. There's people outside of the game that I think get really walloped, but nobody who plays the game dies. In fact, all of their lives get better. Substantially. So is this game actually, like, a blessing in disguise? That's what I wanted to ask. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Okay, so first off, the Kirsten Dunce is on death's door. Like, she's going down. [00:07:26] Speaker A: She's not gonna remember that, though. [00:07:28] Speaker B: No, I know, I know, I know. And I'm just saying, like we. She might, we might have realized if it lasted a little bit longer. [00:07:34] Speaker C: The realtor gets stung by the super mosquito, the. The murder hornet thing. [00:07:39] Speaker A: None of them die because everything gets reverted back. That's [00:07:42] Speaker C: true. You're right. Everything gets reverted. [00:07:44] Speaker B: If the game ends, nobody dies. But like, like Robin Williams character is playing it off pretty well, but he spent. Even though it got reverted, he still spent 28 years, 26 years in like this nightmare fueled jungle. So like, is it fun? Maybe. Did he go back to having the life he should have had? Maybe. But like he's still going to have a therapy bill for sure. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Sure. But we should all have therapy bills. To be honest. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Some are just more extensive than others. [00:08:13] Speaker C: And see, I'm only playing the game if Clean's there to carry me to the end like he does in arc raiders. I need somebody to make sure we're going to finish that game with the win. So it [00:08:22] Speaker A: queens it. I [00:08:23] Speaker C: mean, that's it. [00:08:24] Speaker A: I'm only playing the game if we're doing it at your house because I don't want my place. [00:08:29] Speaker B: Your house goes back to normal when it's done. It's fine. [00:08:32] Speaker A: I mean, I still don't trust Brian saying it's gonna all end well. Yeah, [00:08:38] Speaker C: no. No love here at all. [00:08:40] Speaker B: So going back to like playing the game for reals, assuming you're like in this world at the beginning of the movie, I totally understand the wonder of like what is happening. Oh my God, Bats. By the end of the movie, they know what's going on. I would just be picking those dice. Chuckle them down. Your turn, your turn, your turn. [00:08:55] Speaker C: Yeah, as fast [00:08:56] Speaker B: as you can go. You just need to get to the end. Why are we waiting for the monsoon to kick in? Like, oh, what is the tiger gonna look like? Let's wait till it's here. Like. No, just your turn. Roll it. One person throws them out of their mouth. Even like, you barely have to touch these things. Just don't fake it. I was, yeah. The fact that they're like taking it so slow and like, oh, it's like, okay, no, not how I'd be doing this, but sure, [00:09:18] Speaker A: they were invested. You know, they really wanted to thoroughly enjoy this game, which I think they all did. [00:09:24] Speaker C: Okay. So one. One issue that I had with this movie and it was a choice, but the pacing of it was rough for me. We introduced some kid characters that were a little upset because their parents are dead. So they're little downers, kind of. They move into a [00:09:42] Speaker B: rundown, [00:09:43] Speaker C: they move Into a rundown house that looks like somebody died in it. And we are kind of stuck with them for, like, the first third of the movie. The youngest kid is so unimportant that they, like, wrote out most of his lines saying, he just doesn't talk to people. And I had a hard time getting into the film. Then comes in Robin Williams and the Show. The movie kind of takes off and picks up its pace. It gets a lot better in the middle. And then, of course, you have the ending, which was okay. So the pace for me was rough to get started. Did you guys. Were you okay with kind of just. It was hard for me to get back into it. I remember this is why I stopped watching it the second time I watched it, because I was like, I don't want to sit through the opening of this movie to get to the good stuff. [00:10:34] Speaker B: That's fair. The opening with young Robin Williams, Alan Parrish, was longer than I remembered. I'll give you that for sure. Like, it took a lot longer to get to Robin Williams than I remember. But I don't remember Dis. I wasn't bored, per se. There were a couple of lines where I'm like, o Brian's gonna have some thoughts on this, because there are a lot of child actors in this movie for sure, and even some of the adults are not great. But I don't remember. I was bored. I don't know that the pacing hurt me all that much. What about you, Will? [00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I've got issues throughout this movie. The story is simple, which is fine, but I don't think the adventure. There wasn't enough adventure elements to hold it. So, yeah, I could. I could see that as a pacing issue for sure. I didn't hate any of the kid actors. I. You know, you said that youngest kid with no lines was kind of a dud, but I didn't mind him. He was, like, cute enough. That's pretty much all he needed to be. Dunst's character was, like, overly sarcastic, which felt weird. I'm not a big Duns fan. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Same. [00:11:52] Speaker A: She's a kid in this one, so what am I gonna do? Right? [00:11:55] Speaker B: Well, I mean, both the kids are dealing with the loss of their parents. I don't remember if it says how recently, but the fact that they're both using pretty nasty coping mechanisms, I didn't bump up and against like that. That made sense to me. Does it make for an entertaining watch? Maybe not. [00:12:10] Speaker C: No. [00:12:10] Speaker B: But, like, that they would be doing things to. To either put themselves more in the limelight Or. Or hide who they are or less in the limelight and hide themselves. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:22] Speaker C: I. I thought that Peter was actually one of the better child actors in the film, which made me wonder how come he had no lines in the first half. And then when he finally does start coming into his own as a character and developing and I started actually liking him and thinking he's actually got some chops as an actor, then they turn him into a mouse and cover him with makeup, and then all he does is whimper the rest of the movie. And it was like, you took the one good child actor out of this film almost entirely. For me and all the other child actors, young Alan, young Sarah, Kirsten Dunst. I did not like any of the child actors in this film. I thought they were terrible myself and really took me out of the film. [00:13:07] Speaker B: I'm not gonna defend them, but they didn't take me out of the film. You know what I mean? Like. Like there were some bad line reads. Yeah, for the most part. That's. I mean, that sounds weird. It's not why I'm here. But, like, the spectacle and the silliness and the. What's going on with Jumanji is kind of the. The fun of [00:13:25] Speaker A: the whole of the film. Yeah, [00:13:26] Speaker B: yeah. Like, they're kind of connecting the dots of, like, one turn to the next and one ridiculous, half cgi, half practical effect to the next kind of thing. [00:13:37] Speaker A: Did either of you read the book that this is based on? [00:13:42] Speaker B: Legit. Did not know there was a book that this was based on. [00:13:44] Speaker C: Ditto. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, some. What's the guy's name? I've got it here somewhere. Chris Van Alsberg. He also wrote the Polar Express. He wrote this in, like, 81 or something. It's just like a picture book, short story, story. Okay. And then it was adapted into the movie, much like Polar Express was adapted into a movie as well. But it kind of shows that there's not a lot to this movie. Right. Like, it's this wild board game that really takes you out of this world. Fill in the blanks, I guess, for character development and everything else along the way. But I. I just kind of felt it was lacking in some of those departments. [00:14:26] Speaker C: Yeah, [00:14:26] Speaker B: I don't know that I needed it to be much more than that. Like, you get a couple of side stories with the Soul man. Right. Like the Carl officer who had to, like, pivot pretty hard. You get Alan Paris learning the lesson of, like, well, you know, I had to come clean about what I did and whatnot. I'm struggling Hard. There's got to be something in the fact that, like, Van Pelt is played by the same actor who plays his father [00:14:52] Speaker C: because it fears his father. [00:14:54] Speaker B: But it's like, is it just cheaper? Like, I can't quite. Like, [00:14:58] Speaker A: as far as, you [00:14:58] Speaker B: know, he's scared of his dad, he's scared of Van Pelt, but, like, it's just. There should be something there that I just can't quite piece together. [00:15:04] Speaker A: I think there. That's the problem is I don't. Originally, it wasn't meant to be the same actor, but they were having trouble finding an actor to fill the Hunter role that they liked. You know, it's not a huge role, so. But they wanted somebody good to do it. Eventually their director's like, hey, why don't you do the role to the. The father guy? And he's like, I don't know. It seems weird that I would play both parts and people wouldn't get it, and. But then eventually he said, okay, and I guess it worked fine. But it did leave this, like, lingering. Did they mean to do it because he fears his father and he. He doesn't want to, you know, actually solve that problem or. Or. Or what? It was so ambiguous because I don't think it was planned, [00:15:51] Speaker B: which is totally fair. I didn't to. And honestly, like, as a kid, I had no idea they're the same person. Like, they do a good job with the makeup to hide that it's the same actor, but it's just one of those things. Like, once you do know it, you're just kind of looking for the symbolism, and I'm like, I just can't quite get it. [00:16:06] Speaker A: Yeah, no, for sure. I was the same way. [00:16:11] Speaker C: Yeah. I think that they needed to flesh that out. I thought it was a good idea. I thought it had merit. I really like Jonathan Hyde in both roles, especially Van Pelt. He brought Van Pelt alive and did an excellent job. But I feel like they could have done more had they intentionally written that. Right. I didn't know that until just now, but I was like, oh, that's an interesting dynamic they've got with the father. And he's afraid of Van Pelt, and he's running, and he's not facing his fear and everything, but it didn't really go anywhere, and it didn't meld or come together to fruition or anything, and it just kind of was a thing. And I thought there could have been a lot more there. [00:16:49] Speaker B: For sure. For sure. I. I don't know where to put this I'm just gonna throw it in here. I actually really like the silly running gag of Carl's car just constantly being the point of the movie and just, like, getting worse and worse and worse. He goes to slam the hood and it just falls off. And he's not. He doesn't even notice at that point anymore. He's like, whatever, just get in the car, drive away. Car like, oh, close your door. The door's missing. He's like, screw it. Drives off. I don't know [00:17:15] Speaker C: Carl as a character as well. I thought his character was one of the better ones. He was interesting. He had a lot of. He brought that character to life with what little there was for that role. And that running car gag with him alongside it, it just felt good. Then when the car finally gets pulled into the forest and folded in half and everything, his expression, as it happens, was just great. I thought he did a fantastic job. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Agreed. I do wish we got, like. Because we see him talk about how his shoe is going to change the company, but obviously we never get to see that happen. And we see him as a cop. And while he's never a bad cop, it's just bad things happening to him constantly. It would have been nice to have had a redemptive moment where he's like. He does something great. [00:17:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that would [00:17:59] Speaker C: have been [00:17:59] Speaker B: cool. Quite get that. [00:18:00] Speaker A: I think that was cut out at the end of the movie, actually. I think he's supposed to be like the president of the factory or something at the end of the movie. There's an additional scene there, and they're releasing a new shoe, which is what the kids get as a gift is the new shoes that they're releasing, which is like a. A runner kind of designed like his, but it's called the Jumanji. But they cut both of those scenes. [00:18:25] Speaker B: I be pretty okay with them putting in that he's the president. I'd be pretty sour on them calling the shoe Jumanji. [00:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah, the shoe Jumanji thing is a little weird. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, Jumanji, run from your problems. Like, what tagline we're going with here? Like, I don't know. That doesn't seem right to me. But [00:18:46] Speaker C: I didn't really care for Sarah. Her character was fun in the very beginning when she's having trouble coming to terms with the fact that what she spent her life dealing with is actually real and not a figment of her imagination. That was kind of a fun little process. And then it's over, and now she's just being drug around. With the group. And she's really only there to bounce dialogue off of Robin Williams or have Robin Williams bounce dialogue off of her, I should say. [00:19:19] Speaker A: Not only is she drug around with the rest of the group, she was literally kidnapped at the beginning. Yeah, [00:19:24] Speaker C: yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. [00:19:26] Speaker A: A little. Little weird. Little weird at the start there. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I. I actually like the character more as it went on because she was like. It was funny at the beginning how reluctant she is, and she's like, oh, my therapist is going to love this, and I'm talking to somebody who's not real and all that. But I didn't mind, like, because she's the only person that Robin Williams can really bounce off of. Was kind of fun to watch their dynamic as it went on. [00:19:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I didn't feel any chemistry between the two of them, and they were really trying hard for a romance. I mean, obviously he knocks her up by the end of the movie, but I didn't feel the chemistry between those two characters. And I don't know, it seemed kind of. I mean, I guess if they relive their lives from children all over again, maybe now they have time to grow that chemistry a little better or something. But it didn't feel like it in the movie. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I [00:20:19] Speaker A: mean, a lot of time. Right. They were always just running or swimming or trying to. Yeah. From animals. [00:20:25] Speaker C: Until they were stuck in the floor, forced into a romantic position, literally [00:20:32] Speaker A: where [00:20:32] Speaker C: they have to look into each other's eyes. Meanwhile, there's giant spiders trying to eat them. Yeah. They didn't really get a minute, did they? [00:20:39] Speaker A: No, [00:20:39] Speaker B: not so much. I love that scene, though. Like, for. For when he's stuck in the floor and they have to put, like, the board game on top of his face. I don't know why. I just find that really funny. That's just one of those, like, stupid little gags. Or just, like, boop, and she spits the dice out. I. I don't know. Maybe it's the child in me, but that was one of those. I'm like, that's cute. I like it. [00:20:58] Speaker A: No, it was all right. That was all right. There was a few okay scenes. Now, in 95, this came out. It was known for the CGI. Tell me everything, gentlemen. Does the CGI hold up in this one, Dan? [00:21:12] Speaker B: Oh, my. No, no, no, no. The. The CGI is pretty bad in this, and they use a lot of. Well, I mean, I assume there seems like there's quite a few practical effects in here as well. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Puppets. [00:21:23] Speaker B: But the thing is, they're specifically going for, like, nightmare fuel versions of all of these animals. So some of them look wrong, but still, like, the lion is well made. It just doesn't look like what a lion should look like. [00:21:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Because they're trying to make it look like a scarier version of a lion. [00:21:42] Speaker C: It's like scar from the Lion King is what it looks like. You know, [00:21:46] Speaker A: howling face. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Yeah. And the monkeys with their sharp teeth and angry little faces everywhere. They didn't even look like monkeys. They looked like something else. The only thing that really kind of looked cool was maybe the big stampede, like with that big fat rhino at the end kind of huffing by behind. He's always. He's always in the. The tail end of the stampede, which is kind of funny. The stampede looked okay, but then it's happening so fast you can't really see it. And when they transition to the practical effects and you see the puppets and the animatronics, it was very noticeable for me. Took me out of the film again. I didn't like the special effects in this one. Maybe at. In 95. That was top of its class, but I don't think so. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Keep in mind, this came out two years after Jurassic Park. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Jurassic Park. Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker C: It's [00:22:32] Speaker B: not really fair to compare them, but no [00:22:35] Speaker C: way Jurassic park beats this hands down any day. [00:22:38] Speaker A: That was kind of my thought as well. I actually thought the puppetry in this movie movie was worse than the cgi, which is very rare for me. [00:22:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:45] Speaker A: And the reason is what Dan said is that they changed them to have, like, these humanist, like, angry features that just takes away from all realism of them at all. Whereas at least the CGI was like a lot of quick movements for the most part. So it just looked like moving animals, which helped. Except for the angry monkeys that are. Yeah. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah. The monkeys were the roughest one for me personally. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I. I always even day one when I saw this movie, I was like, everybody thinks this is such great CGI and stuff. I just don't. I don't like it. I wasn't scared by it, but I just didn't like it. Yeah, I think it's the facial features, mostly. [00:23:25] Speaker B: I don't think I would say that I was ever impressed with the cgi, but it was just the fun concept of the movie. You know what I mean? Like, the CGI was good enough to get across what was happening, and what was happening was fun, but, like, I never liked it. [00:23:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it was never my favorite cgi. Was never my favorite movie, to be honest. But it's just a fun little romp. And like, I, I, Robin Williams really carries this pretty hard. Like, it's hard to watch Robin Williams being silly and having fun and not have a good time. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Let's move over to some cleans Canadians, shall we? Because I [00:24:02] Speaker B: was wondering if that was [00:24:03] Speaker A: this movie. We have the whole Christmas scene, all of that was filmed in Canada in British Columbia. And we find the parents of Peter and what's her nuts, Dunston. The parents are played by two Canadian actors who really haven't done a whole lot more. Mostly TV here and there and some small movies here and there, but no, no major productions. But it's always nice to see that we've got some Canadians on screen. Malcolm Stewart and Annabelle Kershaw were playing Judy and Peter's parents in the film, which, you know what's great? You know, we got some Canadians because Jumanji solved the death of them in a place in Canada. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Don't they also die in Canada? [00:24:52] Speaker C: They go to the [00:24:53] Speaker A: Canadian stop. They stop. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Well, no, but like in the, [00:24:56] Speaker C: in the Canadian [00:24:57] Speaker A: Rockies. [00:24:58] Speaker C: Yeah, [00:24:58] Speaker A: but Jumanji taketh and Jumanji giveth. [00:25:03] Speaker B: So, I mean, you'd have to, like, it's random what happens. You can't guarantee you're gonna get stuck in a jungle or that you're gonna survive the jungle. But, like, if you knew you could do that in Prime Travel 26 years back and fix mistakes and maybe bet on certain things, a lottery, like, this is legit time travel. Going back to your question about, like, would you play the game or not? [00:25:20] Speaker A: Right. But did he. There's a world [00:25:22] Speaker B: where. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Did he know after playing the game he was going to get transported back in time? No. So I don't really had time to check lottery tickets or check the Facebook. [00:25:33] Speaker B: But she should have, like, like, not, not check lottery tickets, obviously. But she would know, like, oh, apple is a thing we should maybe invest in that. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Right. You [00:25:42] Speaker B: know what I mean? Like, there'd be certain things in the world you would just know. I'm not saying, like every sports game or something. [00:25:46] Speaker C: You're right, because at least one person of the, of the group of four experienced all that life and got to do it over a full life do over, which would be an entire movie in itself. Like, that whole idea of time travel is what other movies are made of. And they just completely ignore that little bit. Resetting everything. I didn't like how they reset everything. I think they went too far back on that. I don't know. I'm really curious because I have not seen the next Jumanji movies. I'm curious how they relate or tie into this, if they do at all. I'm curious if they're going to have the same rules. I'm curious. I'm curious about a lot of things going into the next Jumanji films. I'm really hoping that it's a lot different from this one because I just don't like a lot of the directorial choices that were made in this film. [00:26:35] Speaker B: It is the next one drastically different than this one. [00:26:39] Speaker A: It is quite. [00:26:41] Speaker B: It is a bit of a stretch that we're connecting them. I'm not going to lie. Compared to some of our other rules, but there was no other chance. We're going to talk about this movie. Like, there's no way this one's ever getting a sequel because those ones are so popular, [00:26:51] Speaker C: right? But [00:26:52] Speaker B: they. It does connect. But, like, you're never gonna see. Like, don't expect them to roll dice and play a board game, [00:26:57] Speaker C: right? And our Patreon viewers would never pick this movie for a Patreon pick because this movie is not really that good. [00:27:04] Speaker B: I mean, we don't [00:27:07] Speaker A: know. Now, you. You said it's [00:27:08] Speaker B: not. It's not like our Patreon has picked exclusively bangers. [00:27:13] Speaker C: We've been in a bit of a rut lately, haven't we? [00:27:17] Speaker A: Now, Brian, you mentioned you didn't love the directorial choices in this movie. I'm gonna. I'm gonna want to. Brian will have to do some research here behind the scenes, because Joe Johnson directed this movie. He also directed Jurassic Park 3, which we have covered here on our rating. So I want to know where the, you know, ratings line up for this movie in Jurassic Park 3. For you. [00:27:42] Speaker C: Jurassic Park 3, that's the one after the high hide, right? When we get back to some of the regular actors. I don't. I think it was a pretty low score. I don't remember. I think it's pretty low score. [00:27:54] Speaker B: Okay. You told him to do the research. I'm like, I'm the one with the numbers directly in front of [00:27:57] Speaker C: you. I don't remember my numbers. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Brian doesn't remember last week's numbers. [00:28:01] Speaker A: That's true. [00:28:03] Speaker B: Brian and I were [00:28:04] Speaker C: reviewed last week. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Brian and I were both sub 50 on Jurassic Park 3. So, [00:28:12] Speaker A: okay, so there we go. [00:28:13] Speaker B: I don't know. We'll. We'll see where this one lands for you. [00:28:16] Speaker A: For those who wondering, John Joe Johnson also directed the Rocketeer and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. So a lot of, like, you know, young Adventurish type movies, kind of family friendly type things. So we [00:28:30] Speaker C: need more of that in the [00:28:31] Speaker A: world. [00:28:32] Speaker C: So props to him. And I liked the Rocketeer. I liked Honey. I shrunk the kids for what they were. And I think those are great movies that you can take your kids to in the theater. And we need more of those kinds of movies to generate hype for cinema in our young moviegoers. [00:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah, horror is doing really well in movie theaters right now. We need a few more family movies. [00:28:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Something to take the kids to. [00:28:54] Speaker A: I mean, Pixar does okay. [00:28:57] Speaker C: Yeah, [00:28:57] Speaker B: that's true. Once a year. Once every other year. Like, [00:29:00] Speaker C: I want live action movies that the kids can get intertwined with. I've got them watching their video games enough. I don't need them seeing more CGI stuff. [00:29:10] Speaker A: Fair? Fair. [00:29:11] Speaker B: If you like what we do and you want to help support us, consider joining our Patreon. There's a link down below. Thank you to our producers as well as our executive producer, Dino. And a huge shout out to our writers, Mrs. Hillary Real, Bubba, Hotep and Windstorm114. Thank you all so much. [00:29:29] Speaker C: Lots of child acting killed this movie for me. They weren't good child actors for the most part. I actually thought that the kid that played Peter was pretty good, but they stripped him of all his lines throughout most of the movie. I didn't really like any of the characters the way they were depicted. I didn't really like much of the acting. I think that this movie was mid through and through. Just everything about this was just okay. I'm giving this one an exact score of 50 because it is a mid movie for me. [00:29:58] Speaker B: So I've seen this one more so than Brian has. I've seen it a couple of times and watching it with my kids was a lot of fun because they were getting into it to an extent. This was not one that I Remember Loving in 1995 when it came out, but kind of grew on me a little bit over time. It is a fun family film which Brian mentioned we do need more of in present day. I think it fills that role. Okay, but I've got to agree, like, the CGI has not aged well. The acting is not great. And not just the kids, some of the adults as well. Heck, even Robin Williams has a line or two where I'm like, o, maybe we should have taken that one again. But there is a certain amount of joy to this film that I do enjoy and I would pretty happily watch this one again if I had a reason. Kids, grandkids, Whatever it tends to be. But this is not one that I'm ever going to watch by myself. However, I did enjoy it. It is a kids movie. My kids enjoyed it. The music is pretty fun. The. The set pieces are more fun than. The actual CGI is good for them, if that makes any sense. The characters are fine. I don't have a problem with any of them. There was none that I gravitated towards or really enjoyed, but they were all okay. I'm giving this one a 64. I think it was fun. I think it's worth checking out. Just know what you're getting self into before you roll the dice. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Oh, roll the dice. Yeah, it's a family adventure. I think the adventure kind of hits and misses throughout. I mean, and I think it's a little. Kind of scary for younger kids, you know, like, Williams's character is literally being hunted by another man for half of this movie. Like, people are getting killed by giant mosquitoes. It seems like it. It's pretty grim in. In a lot of points that I feel like. It doesn't have to be as scary as it came across, but it. I guess it makes it feel that much more intense when you roll the dice. Overall, I didn't love the CGI or the puppetry in this. The acting is whatever it was. So, so movie. You know, Dan was saying Robin Williams is always good to watch, but I just don't think he really had the chance to carry this ensemble piece. So for me, it's a 60 out of 100. It's okay. [00:32:17] Speaker B: And with that, we see Jumanji coming in a little lower than I would have anticipated. Be perfectly honest with 64 from me. Brian. Sorry, 50 from Brian, 60 from Will, for a grand total of 58. Putting it under the accountant, but just above Jurassic World. Brian, you were the lowest on this one. I got to assume this is a little higher than you'd like it to be. [00:32:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I think I'd rather watch Jurassic World or Mortal Kombat over Jumanji. Either of those sound like a much better time for me, but that's about it. So we're in the ballpark now. You guys liked it more than I did. We'll see where the next installments take this, but I don't have high hopes for this franchise going much of anywhere. I think it's going to hover right around 58. [00:33:00] Speaker B: I'm really curious because I don't feel like I've got a solid handle on what you find funny. I think I have a decent handle on what Will finds funny. I just. You sometimes surprise me. Sometimes you think there's some things I would expect you to think are really funny. And sometimes you are just super against stuff where I'm like, oh, I thought that'd be more up your alley. So I have no idea what this next movie is going to do for you, if anything. Well, that's our rating of Jumanji, but what's yours? 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